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 Stirlingsays Online  01 Nov 19 11.01pm |
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Originally posted by braunstoneagle
i dont know, i cannot tell you. i feel like i will feel dirty whoever i vote for, i cant abstain as thats a wasted vote. i really hate (and i really dislike the word hate) the fact this election is going to be a single issue vote. lots of research is needed. I can relate to this. The 'hate' word is rarely appropriate in its usage and whoever any of us vote for....it inevitably has a 'hold the nose' aspect to it.
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 Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 11.01am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a ridiculous excuse. Do you understand the difference between excuses and reasons? There could only be a binary choice and you know it. We all ought to know it but more importantly the consequences of such a choice. Which has resulted in the mess we are now in. You also know that we would be out of the EU "People like me" are far from "arrogant", at least over this issue. We have just looked at what has actually happened and are determined that such a disastrous sequence of events be brought to an end by our Parliament in the interests of our country
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 02 Nov 19 11.15am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Darned good job and all. In your own opinion, but not in mine. Respecting the result of the referendum.This is what 17.4 million people voted for. That's though one of the major problems. No-one knew what "respecting the result" actually meant and it's impact on the future of the UK. "In hock to the USA" and the "UK itself in tatters".Straight from the Corbyn "Bible". I don't read, let alone subscribe to, "Corbyn's bible". With respect a load of old hogwash as far as I am concerned but I respect your right to your air your opinion even though I fervently oppose it. We will see whether it's "hogwash" in the coming years. If the UK breaks up as a consequence then it most certainly won't be and that's the final destination that I see. If I am right then Brexit will have been a total disaster.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.20am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
The so called "Mess' is solely the result of a 'Hung Parliament'. At the end of the day Labour would have voted against ANY deal deal agreed with the EU. The Labour party led (I use the term loosely) by the Commissar of Islington North are the sole reason for the continued uncertainty and the reason Parliament has got nothing done. Edited by Willo (02 Nov 2019 11.23am)
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| deleted user 02 Nov 19 11.21am |
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I'm genuinely surprised that it's even money for either a Conservative majority and No Overall Majority. I can only assume that the Farage wildcard is factoring in, but ultimately I don't see him going full throttle against the Tories because he'd potentially only succeed in becoming the man who scuppered Brexit.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.28am |
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Originally posted by dollardays
I'm genuinely surprised that it's even money for either a Conservative majority and No Overall Majority. I can only assume that the Farage wildcard is factoring in, but ultimately I don't see him going full throttle against the Tories because he'd potentially only succeed in becoming the man who scuppered Brexit. I suspect there is going to be volatility in both the markets and polls as the campaigns unfold.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 02 Nov 19 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Willo
The so called "Mess' is solely the result of a 'Hung Parliament'. At the end of the day Labour would have voted against ANY deal deal agreed with the EU. The Labour party led (I use the term loosely) by the Commissar of Islington North are the sole reason for the continued uncertainty and the reason Parliament has got nothing done. Edited by Willo (02 Nov 2019 11.23am) JC has been a most effective leader of the opposition, credit where it is due. You are quite wrong, Corbyn agreed to an election when no deal was off and that is exactly what he did. Carry on abusing people calling them commissars and marxists, we will see you on 12th December. No-one in their right mind would vote for Johnsons deal.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.45am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Indeed "My opinion" which differs from yours on an array of matters but polarised views all add to the rich tapestry of debate on HOL. In terms of "Respecting the referendum" it really is an easy concept to grasp but of cause 'Remainers' simply will not accept the result. A total of 17.4 million voted to LEAVE and that was their desire - to LEAVE the EU. Apropos the 'Union', it is the Labour policies that will threaten the breakup of our great Union not those of my party. Finally, with the greatest respect, you might not have a copy of the 'Corbyn Bible' but one suspects some of your utterances might appear in a few chapters! Edited by Willo (02 Nov 2019 11.53am)
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.51am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
JC has been a most effective leader of the opposition, credit where it is due. You are quite wrong, Corbyn agreed to an election when no deal was off and that is exactly what he did. Carry on abusing people calling them commissars and marxists, we will see you on 12th December. No-one in their right mind would vote for Johnsons deal.
With respect I have never concluded that framing someone in these terms is considered abusive. Corbyn to my mind is a tyrant-backing, NATO-bashing marxist and his party propped up by the Lib Dems and SNP are the cast of no-hopers that have spent the last three years preventing Parlianment from getting anything done.
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| DanH Online SW2 02 Nov 19 11.53am |
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Originally posted by Willo
With respect I have never concluded that framing someone in these terms is considered abusive. Corbyn to my mind is a tyrant-backing, NATO-bashing marxist and his party propped up by the Lib Dems and SNP are the cast of no-hopers that have spent the last three years preventing Parlianment from getting anything done. Look at the mess your mob have got this country in since coming to power. Absolute shambles.
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| deleted user 02 Nov 19 11.53am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
JC has been a most effective leader of the opposition, credit where it is due. You are quite wrong, Corbyn agreed to an election when no deal was off and that is exactly what he did. Carry on abusing people calling them commissars and marxists, we will see you on 12th December. No-one in their right mind would vote for Johnsons deal.
They're stuck between a rock and a hard place in that the Tories and Lib Dems have what is at least a somewhat clear message on Brexit. I'm not convinced that the average person has any idea what Labours take on Brexit is and that has to be a problem. They are massively up against it in this election, and personally I think if just about anyone else was leader they would stand a better chance. I'm not even saying it's entirely Corbyn's fault that he's viewed in such a way, but he's massively unpopular with the public.
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| Willo Online South coast - west of Brighton. 02 Nov 19 11.58am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Really ? Labour would undo everything that has been achieved.
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