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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 03 Nov 19 12.45pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

No it is Edinburgh their seat of government and just like any country in the EU or out they should run themselves.

How anybody can possibly want to be run by Westminster is beyond me.

Have to let them go, and Northern Ireland getting closer to a united Ireland according to the polls.

If we want to commit national suicide we can hardly blame them for wanting out.

I don't get why Labour is so keen to get into bed with the SNP and let them have another referendum in return for their support, it's very short sighted.

There are 59 Westminster seats in Scotland at the last GE the SNP won 35, Tories 13, Lib Dems 4 and Labour 7.

It was a bit of a freak result for the Tories and a really bad one for Labour.

The seats in Scotland historically swing between SNP and Labour. If the SNP get their independence then that takes 59 seats out of the equation a far bigger potential loss for Labour than the Tories. Even if Labour don't increase their vote the SNP won't side with the Tories so no downside for Labour.

I know it's coming up to Christmas but Turkey's voting and all that?

Edited by Badger11 (03 Nov 2019 12.46pm)

 


One more point

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Nov 19 1.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

A new coalmine in Cumbria has been given the green light by the government in the same week that the Treasury launched a review into how the UK can end its contribution to global heating.

A coalmine.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Nov 19 1.31pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't get why Labour is so keen to get into bed with the SNP and let them have another referendum in return for their support, it's very short sighted.

There are 59 Westminster seats in Scotland at the last GE the SNP won 35, Tories 13, Lib Dems 4 and Labour 7.

It was a bit of a freak result for the Tories and a really bad one for Labour.

The seats in Scotland historically swing between SNP and Labour. If the SNP get their independence then that takes 59 seats out of the equation a far bigger potential loss for Labour than the Tories. Even if Labour don't increase their vote the SNP won't side with the Tories so no downside for Labour.

I know it's coming up to Christmas but Turkey's voting and all that?

Edited by Badger11 (03 Nov 2019 12.46pm)

It’s an interesting point. It could be a gamble he thinks worth taking; if Scotland voted against it then the SNP conceivably become a bit less appealing and Labour would likely regain those votes.
My impression is that independence is largely a heart v head question in that even those who would vote for it concede the financial implications are too serious.

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Originally posted by steeleye20

A new coalmine in Cumbria has been given the green light by the government in the same week that the Treasury launched a review into how the UK can end its contribution to global heating.

A coalmine.

How dare you!

 


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Originally posted by steeleye20

A new coalmine in Cumbria has been given the green light by the government in the same week that the Treasury launched a review into how the UK can end its contribution to global heating.

A coalmine.

Ironic how you bleat about industry being shut down by Maggie and now you question new industry.
Run with the hounds ,play with the fox comes to mind.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 03 Nov 19 1.53pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironic how you bleat about industry being shut down by Maggie and now you question new industry.
Run with the hounds ,play with the fox comes to mind.

It’s a point. Had the mines not been closed down would the Greens now be agitating for closure and would they attract the same level of opprobrium?

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 03 Nov 19 4.05pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Ironic how you bleat about industry being shut down by Maggie and now you question new industry.
Run with the hounds ,play with the fox comes to mind.

New industry? Where have you been they have been shutting down coal mines for years.

There is enough off-shore wind in Cumbria to run the country it is boundless.

How will the new coal mine get its energy.

Solar powered.

 

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Originally posted by steeleye20

New industry? Where have you been they have been shutting down coal mines for years.

There is enough off-shore wind in Cumbria to run the country it is boundless.

How will the new coal mine get its energy.

Solar powered.


Sorry, no there isn't and even if there were it would be the most stupid energy plan ever conceived.

One attack would bring the country to its knees....mind you that's a position I imagine you're familiar with.....taking in all that EU goodness.


Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2019 4.33pm)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Sorry, no there isn't and even if there were it would be the most stupid energy plan ever conceived.

One attack would bring the country to its knees....mind you that's a position I imagine you're familiar with.....taking in all that EU goodness.


Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Nov 2019 4.33pm)

When it comes to a constant gale of hot air maybe cornwall is the place for a wind farm.

 

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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 03 Nov 19 5.10pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Have you not heard about the EU army plans....or does that not fit with your pro EU agenda...when our kids get called up and sent to war, your grandchildren too !!

 

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[Link]

A link to the off-shore wind possibilities.

 

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Originally posted by sickboy

When it comes to a constant gale of hot air maybe cornwall is the place for a wind farm.

You hit the nail squarely on the head.

 


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