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W12 16 Nov 19 3.38pm

What a wonderful future we can look forward to:

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What civilisation could possibly need babies and masculine men?

 

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Deleted11 16 Nov 19 4.02pm

Originally posted by W12

What a wonderful future we can look forward to:

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What civilisation could possibly need babies and masculine men?

Not sure I see your point here.

Are there transgenders in the uk? Yep. Is this ad making an attempt to represent them and also increasing it's sales by appealing to them? Yep

I imagine you are a masculine man, so where's the problem.

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

Not sure I see your point here.

Are there transgenders in the uk? Yep. Is this ad making an attempt to represent them and also increasing it's sales by appealing to them? Yep

I imagine you are a masculine man, so where's the problem.

He's told you.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2019 5.01pm)

 


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Deleted11 16 Nov 19 5.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

He's told you.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2019 5.01pm)

Bit silly isn't it. How does this advert affect his masculinity?

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

Bit silly isn't it. How does this advert affect his masculinity?

Not to me.

He's talking about what is promoted in society and what isn't.

 


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Deleted11 16 Nov 19 5.22pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Not to me.

He's talking about what is promoted in society and what isn't.

I dont remember homosexuality and trans being promoted in the 80s, when it obviously existed, and i dont think it is being promoted, rather accepted, as it should be.

Can it be over the top? Yes, but the world isn't full of straight people exclusively.

 

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Originally posted by Jway89

I dont remember homosexuality and trans being promoted in the 80s, when it obviously existed, and i dont think it is being promoted, rather accepted, as it should be.

Can it be over the top? Yes, but the world isn't full of straight people exclusively.

When it comes to individuals I've always been 'live and let live'. Someone's sexuality, as long as it isn't harming others, is their own business.

So I have no issues with the acceptance point.

However what should be promoted within society is heterosexuality. We have a reproductive rate of 1.8 per woman.....That's below the 2.1 you need just to stay still.

European nations need to promote heterosexuality and traditional masculine and feminine models.....What has been going on for forty years has been disastrous.

As individuals what you get up to is your own business....but young women and men are getting messaging that damages society as a whole.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2019 5.43pm)

 


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Originally posted by Jway89

I dont remember homosexuality and trans being promoted in the 80s, when it obviously existed.

Boy George and all the rest of it just weren't your bag then?

 


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Deleted11 16 Nov 19 5.49pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When it comes to individuals I've always been 'live and let live'. Someone's sexuality, as long as it isn't harming others, is their own.

So I have no issues with the acceptance point.

However what should be promoted within society is heterosexuality. We have a reproductive rate of 1.8 per woman.....That's below the 2.1 you need just to stay still.

European nations need to promote heterosexuality and traditional masculine and feminine models.....What has been going on for forty years has been disastrous.

As individuals what you get up to is your own business....but young women and men are getting messaging that damages society as a whole.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2019 5.42pm)

There is merit to the population decline argument. Japan is a classic example of an ageing and falling population, however, you have look at the bigger picture.

The point was made on another thread that 1 wage would be enough for a household, but now we are working more and still having to borrow. There is also less time to be able to look after children too. The biggest employers in the uk are the gov depts and retailers/service industry. The hours and lack of flexibility makes a difference.

It does need further research i think, but how many people to we actually need?

Im just waiting for the day i can transfer my conciousness to a hard drive and go full cyborg.

 

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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
When it comes to individuals I've always been 'live and let live'. Someone's sexuality, as long as it isn't harming others, is their own business.

So I have no issues with the acceptance point.

However what should be promoted within society is heterosexuality. We have a reproductive rate of 1.8 per woman.....That's below the 2.1 you need just to stay still.

European nations need to promote heterosexuality and traditional masculine and feminine models.....What has been going on for forty years has been disastrous.

As individuals what you get up to is your own business....but young women and men are getting messaging that damages society as a whole.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2019 5.43pm)

Most of the decline in birth rate is due to straight educated women not wanting to have kids or having them later. Gay and Trans might affect things but not within 0.1. So I think you’re looking in the wrong place.

 


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Originally posted by the.universal

Most of the decline in birth rate is due to straight educated women not wanting to have kids or having them later. Gay and Trans might affect things but not within 0.1. So I think you’re looking in the wrong place.

There's a certain level of truth to that as the reason.

However, that collective decision by women has come about in a culture that no longer encourages and promotes motherhood but does promote non reproductive sexualities as equal in utility to productive ones.....which is 'feels over reals' and a net negative.

For example, look at the reaction to the recent 'straight pride' event and compare it to the seemingly ever present 'gay pride' events and general promotion of the sexuality.

What I would want to see is change in emphasis towards promoting heterosexuality instead....promoting masculinity and femininity...women having children as the benefit it is......A move away from this atomised individualism...which was originally necessary for some for a recognition of choice and freedom.... but has gone too far and moved into the orthodoxy both legally and in education.


Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2019 4.24am)

 


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Interesting poll in the Telegraph where the British public back a ban on the burka by two to one.

 


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