I'm not against a goal being ruled out even for the narrowest of margins, but I still can't see from the photos that Wilf was offside?

So far as the rest of the game went, we were the better and more composed side up until the last quarter of the game when the players started to look really tired. Saints were able to bring on Djenepo who has looked really good this season, and against tired legs he was having a lot of fortune. Perhaps unlucky not to get 3 points, but a point seemed fair by the end.

I know many of us keep asking the question, but what is going on with Camarassa? For anyone at the games lately, does he even run the touchline during games, or does he just sit cuddled up on the bench? My only guess is that Roy knows he is leaving and that is why he won't play him. Also damning for Wickham that even though Ayew was practically walking the last 15 minutes he still didn't get on the pitch.

I'm not complaining about yesterday's decisions that went against us because it's happened to everyone and we've had our fair share of debatable VAR decisions that have gone in our favour. The bigger problem is that the excitement of football is being ruined by VAR and they need to sort it out and soon. If I was a season ticket holder I'd be thinking seriously about whether I want to renew for next season although I am optimistic that there will be changes before then. There has to be.

If the last defender and forward are dead inline with each other, it is deemed onside. Wilf was in line with the last defender,but it went against us...

The system needs revising, just seen a Wolves goal disallowed against Liverpool again a supposed offside. Liverpool have very few in any decisions go against them...

We of course benefitted from VAR when Ayew scored in the dying embers at W.Ham.

Just heard that 22 goals have been ruled out by very marginal offside calls.I don't know how many goals have been awarded due to a marginal calls.In the final analysis VAR is adjudicating based strictly on the current law.If the law is changed then VAR would have to adhere to the amended offside law.

I understand the protocols about "Clear and obvious" in relation to VAR but this has moved on to "If it's offside, it's offside" and has to be ruled accordingly.

Someone the other day in a local establishment expressed the sentiments in a gruff tone, words to the effect that VAR should NOT rule on offsides and that there would no longer be the controversy that currently exists!

Edited by Willo (29 Dec 2019 7.40pm)

But prior to VAR offsides were decided on the position of a players feet rather than his shoulder.
I heard someone debating, semi-seriously whether offsides should be decided when the player passing the ball makes contact with the ball or when it actually leaves his boot.

It seems that VAR is now running (ruling) the game. It not only takes away the excitement and controversy we have all spent years debating after a game - good and bad - but, in my opinion, is not serving the purpose it was introduced for.
The on-field ref is almost a non authoritative role now. Why do they not firstly refer to the pitch side screens and the request a VAR opinion not be led by them.
Admittedly, ‘rules are rules, but a hand or elbow ‘beyond the line’ is not within the spirit of the game and again in my opinion, is spoiling our beautiful game.

Sourness made a point, post the Liverpool game earlier, suggesting offside should be determined by any players “body part” being the “ right side of the line! Interesting...I say do away with offside altogether and have what back in the day was a ‘goalhanger’