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View NickinOX's Profile NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 09 Jan 20 12.51pm Send a Private Message to NickinOX Add NickinOX as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Well, if the bosses saw this and went like "Hey, let's buy this guy!! He's amazing at 23! Had 3 assists in the Bournemouth game, 5 in 12 matches in the PL. Surely worth 15 million." then I have to say that they're getting really ripped off.

There are no assists! Look at the Tottenham- Bournemouth higlights: [Link]

He didn't even play. He has 400 minutes the entire season and has missed Tottenham's last 10 matches due to not making the squad.


Edited by mattteo (09 Jan 2020 2.34am)

Where did I say we should buy him? why defelct if you are sure sure you are correct?

Did you not bother to read the Premier League's own stats which showed he has 5 assists as was claimed and to which you replied he doesn't? Or would that not square with what you've been arguing? What does that tell us...

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 09 Jan 20 1.44pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by NickinOX

Where did I say we should buy him? why defelct if you are sure sure you are correct?

Did you not bother to read the Premier League's own stats which showed he has 5 assists as was claimed and to which you replied he doesn't? Or would that not square with what you've been arguing? What does that tell us...

I wouldn't bother arguing with this guy, he pumps out stats but even those are dubious apparently.

I doubt highly he has any practical knowledge of football beyond the internet. Know quite a few blokes like that, almost always Man united 'fans', they'd be useful in a quiz but not on your 5 a side team.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 09 Jan 20 1.56pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

A lot will depend on how keen Spurs are to move him on if we're talking about a sale, so we may not even have to pay as much as 15m (I could see a deal based on meeting certain targets rather than cash up front). Furthermore, Palace will have some PL appearances to look at to make a judgement on, whereas for Championship and foreign players there is always an element of gamble involved. Maybe they'll get it wrong, but at least they'll have some evidence. I remember mattteo and some others saying we should take £20m for AWB because there are loads of players just as good in the foreign leagues at full-back for 5-10m; this is not to slag off mattteo, or anyone else, but rather to point out how hard it is to actually put a price on players. Who would have thought we'd get 50m for a player with such limited experience and who still can't attack very effectively.

If the reports are to be believed KWP may well not be our first choice anyway with the likes of Ferguson at WBA possibly now a target of Spurs and Bogle may well want to stay and work with Rooney.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 09 Jan 20 2.29pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Has he signed yet?

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 09 Jan 20 2.51pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I remember mattteo and some others saying we should take £20m for AWB because there are loads of players just as good in the foreign leagues at full-back for 5-10m; this is not to slag off mattteo, or anyone else, but rather to point out how hard it is to actually put a price on players.

I did. I admit I did. I still think that's a good price for AWB.

If the board sold him for 50 million, then that's amazing. But there isn't Manchester United spending gazillions every window. If there was another team from Europe outside from United, City, PSG or Madrid, he'd have been sold for 20 million, not 50.

I'll admit my mistake as I was really not part of the Palace board to know what offers were coming in.

But what I'm saying thet KWP doesn't have the sale possibility of AWB

Edited by mattteo (09 Jan 2020 3.07pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jan 20 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I did. I admit I did. I still think that's a good price for AWB.

If the board sold him for 50 million, then that's amazing. But there isn't Manchester United spending gazillions every window. If there was another team from Europe outside from United, City, PSG or Madrid, he'd have been sold for 20 million, not 50.

My understanding is that it was £45 Mill rising to £50 Mill for add-ons.
I still think it was a lot of money for AWB.

Edited by Willo (09 Jan 2020 3.08pm)

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 09 Jan 20 3.09pm Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I did. I admit I did. I still think that's a good price for AWB.

If the board sold him for 50 million, then that's amazing. But there isn't Manchester United spending gazillions every window. If there was another team from Europe outside from United, City, PSG or Madrid, he'd have been sold for 20 million, not 50.

My point was, while you can say a player like Bogle would only cost say 10m, Derby may well not want to sell him for less than 20m, even if he is not actually worth that. Freedman alluded to being held to ransom by clubs over the summer, which suggests while in theory there are cheaper options out there, in reality they often come at an inflated price. Spurs fans seem divided on whether KWP should be sold, which suggests there is some potential there, as if he was that bad they would all be cheering his departure. I'll admit I've only seen him a couple of times, but he at least looks like an upgrade on Kelly, who increasingly looks like what he is, a centre-back being played out of position.

 

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View kennybrowns leftfoot's Profile kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 09 Jan 20 3.28pm Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Has he signed yet?

This will never get old!! I think the rights to this saying should be patented to Cucking... Bit like that boxing ring announcer with his ‘lets get ready to rumble’ quote.

 


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View Ecopalace's Profile Ecopalace Flag Wickham 09 Jan 20 3.40pm Send a Private Message to Ecopalace Add Ecopalace as a friend

I'm not sure why you're saying he doesn't have the resale value, he's only 22, if he had 2-3 years for Palace and with regular football improved to become first choice, we "could" not only get our money back but possibly sell for profit as he'd then be at his peak at 24-25 years old. This topic is getting a little silly.


Originally posted by mattteo

I did. I admit I did. I still think that's a good price for AWB.

If the board sold him for 50 million, then that's amazing. But there isn't Manchester United spending gazillions every window. If there was another team from Europe outside from United, City, PSG or Madrid, he'd have been sold for 20 million, not 50.

I'll admit my mistake as I was really not part of the Palace board to know what offers were coming in.

But what I'm saying thet KWP doesn't have the sale possibility of AWB

Edited by mattteo (09 Jan 2020 3.07pm)

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Jan 20 3.49pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

My point was, while you can say a player like Bogle would only cost say 10m, Derby may well not want to sell him for less than 20m, even if he is not actually worth that. Freedman alluded to being held to ransom by clubs over the summer, which suggests while in theory there are cheaper options out there, in reality they often come at an inflated price. Spurs fans seem divided on whether KWP should be sold, which suggests there is some potential there, as if he was that bad they would all be cheering his departure. I'll admit I've only seen him a couple of times, but he at least looks like an upgrade on Kelly, who increasingly looks like what he is, a centre-back being played out of position.

As you rightly say, price and worth are two entirely different figures. Wilf is not worth £80m, but he is to us hence his valuation. I think £15m for KWP is highish but not extraordinary, and say £12m for Bogle the same, but if it actually gets them through the door then it’s worth it given our current situation.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 09 Jan 20 3.54pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

This will never get old!! I think the rights to this saying should be patented to Cucking... Bit like that boxing ring announcer with his ‘lets get ready to rumble’ quote.

The public need to know, Kenny.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 09 Jan 20 4.18pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

My point was, while you can say a player like Bogle would only cost say 10m, Derby may well not want to sell him for less than 20m, even if he is not actually worth that.

Well, I didn't just say Derby want 10 just to make up a number.

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