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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Those with more interest in religion may well suggest you refer to Matthew 7:5.

Explain to me the hypocrisy you see in my post?

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Islamaphobic characteristics.
Can you explain how highlighting that 80% odd of grooming gangs are muslim/islamic/asian etc (whichever terminology fits a saturday);is islamophobic

No, because taken in isolation it wouldn't be.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 07 Mar 20 2.27pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No, because taken in isolation it wouldn't be.

What do you see in the posts you dont agree with that are not in isolation and with reference to the grooming gangs being mainly; well pick a terminology.
I dont really see how you can argue with 80% odd
Being a certain demographic being stated by us,the media or anyone.
A majority of the demographic dont want it happening or agree with it so what exactly is your point over the last x amount of posts.

 

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I listened to "Robinson's" secret recording of the Policeman updating him on the investigation into the alleged molestation.

I thought the Police officer showed admirable restraint when faced with typical "Robinson" aggression. They clearly haven't yet concluded their work and were never going to reveal what evidence they have, or don't have. The Police officer politely explained why.

He promised to keep him informed which is all any reasonable person ought to expect.

"Robinson" publishing it and then his "supporters" joining in just adds to the impression he is trying to milk this event for purposes unconnected to any genuine interest in justice.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Mar 20 2.31pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This poster has had zero concerns for deconstruction or discussions about 'not all' when he's criticized what he considers the far right.

Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to address it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 2.32pm)

 


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Robinson regularly records his dealings with the police.....errrr, just how 'secret' is that? The Police also record dealings with the public....this poster's criticism of this is inane.

Why should he or the Police be concerned if everything is above board. But then again, we know that this poster is a one arm bandit when it comes to being even handed.

I'll state once again, Robinson has zero reasons to trust the Police. In my view their treatment of him has been disgusting.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 2.41pm)

 


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Originally posted by cryrst

What do you see in the posts you dont agree with that are not in isolation and with reference to the grooming gangs being mainly; well pick a terminology.
I dont really see how you can argue with 80% odd
Being a certain demographic being stated by us,the media or anyone.
A majority of the demographic dont want it happening or agree with it so what exactly is your point over the last x amount of posts.

It has nothing to do with any % of anything. It's the general approach that I am sensing. It has nothing to do with the grooming gangs per se. They though are used as an excuse to justify a wider attitude. An attitude I believe is a demonstration of islamophobia. That some people will disagree is completely to be expected and fits with the profile.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 07 Mar 20 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Explain to me the hypocrisy you see in my post?

I didn’t say I did. I said someone more interested in religion might refer you to a verse. See how this works?


 

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The only reason I described the recording as "secret" was because that was how it was described in the referenced Twitter post!

That "Robinson" doesn't trust the Police is both irrelevant and entirely his own fault.

We can, or certainly ought to, trust the Police to do their work calmly and thoroughly whilst being mindful of the pressures they are under after years of cuts to their numbers and resources.

My guess is that in many cases an incident like this might not be able to command a great deal of Police time at the moment. They have to prioritise and their decisions won't always meet the approval of everyone.

It's unfortunate but I think it's also the reality.

 

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Anyway for those actually interested in the truth, this recording reveals pretty much everything you need to know.

As for the Police.....there are thousands of girls who were raped who shouldn't have been if they were doing their job properly...and indeed many continue to be in danger.....this wasn't in one town or over one year....this has been recorded in other twenty different locations and has been over decades.

So excuse me, if I don't take their judgement upon these matters or indeed in anything related to Robinson as even handed or fair.

There are a lot of people now...including ex police, who are very critical of modern day Police management.

So when this poster, who supported that Police response to these rapes and has been mealy mouthed over the huge criticism talks about how the Police respond....I think many of us can be forgiven for the zero credibility we give to his opinions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 3.07pm)

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

The only reason I described the recording as "secret" was because that was how it was described in the referenced Twitter post!

That "Robinson" doesn't trust the Police is both irrelevant and entirely his own fault.

We can, or certainly ought to, trust the Police to do their work calmly and thoroughly whilst being mindful of the pressures they are under after years of cuts to their numbers and resources.

My guess is that in many cases an incident like this might not be able to command a great deal of Police time at the moment. They have to prioritise and their decisions won't always meet the approval of everyone.

It's unfortunate but I think it's also the reality.

So TR not trusting the police is irrelevant and entirely his own fault even with his persecution but people highlighting the grooming gangs and their demographic is relevant in the fact that it isolates a demographic unfairly.
Even though a lot of the surrounding families would and do know about it.

 

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Of course Robinson not trusting the Police is relevant as it explains why he's angry on the phone call.

Let's not forget what happened in this incident. Robinson was arrested and the person who groped his child wasn't. I think I would be pretty angry in that situation as well.

Let's not forget how the media organizations reported on this and now certain posters on here reacted to it.


Edited by Stirlingsays (07 Mar 2020 5.32pm)

 


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