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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Mar 20 11.10am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They aren't idiots, this isn't the black death. 95 percentage of all world cases are mild.

Destroying economies however....when you're all going to revert back to normal eventually....that could be said to be overly alarmist.

Do you think we should return to normal now? I think I remember reading you saying you can understand this until mid April or something. I知 not sure when I think I agree with you but I do. LBC seems the best place to hear the most up to date news and expert opinion and I知 looking out for info on stats, kits and learning experience.

We can always keep the vulnerable inside and keep providing them the essentials as we池e doing now. It値l need other people to be inconvenienced. Not being able to order food deliveries is the biggie.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 24 Mar 20 11.12am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Vegan caller on Jeremy Vine lol. I didn稚 hear all of it but anyone with a non medically needed diet can, well....

Vegans
Organic only (there are a few who need this I think)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Mar 20 11.15am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

All of those idiots may well survive Coronavirus but they would have all infected each other and then gone home and infected their parents and grandparents, killing them in the process

About two or three percent of the at risk....And while I recognise it's unpleasant to say it....most of those would have been on the edge beforehand.

Whereas....for every one percent the unemployment rate goes up there are many thousands more deaths anyway.....And here you're talking about the world economy.

Added to that there are many more very obvious future negative economic affects of this self harming.

And just how long do you expect nations of economically active people to stay indoors?.....To me, this all seems totally unrealistic.

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.TUX. Flag 24 Mar 20 11.21am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They aren't idiots, this isn't the black death. 95 percentage of all world cases are mild.

Destroying economies however....when you're all going to revert back to normal eventually....that could be said to be overly alarmist.

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The Federals Reserves own figures showing that A. The economy began to 'destroy' itself on Sept 17th last year and B. ''normal'' hasn't existed for a long while now.
As with every single 'fiat based system' throughout history, the current fiat-system also finally broke.............and it done this alone ie without the assistance of a germ.


 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Mar 20 11.27am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Do you think we should return to normal now? I think I remember reading you saying you can understand this until mid April or something. I知 not sure when I think I agree with you but I do. LBC seems the best place to hear the most up to date news and expert opinion and I知 looking out for info on stats, kits and learning experience.

We can always keep the vulnerable inside and keep providing them the essentials as we池e doing now. It値l need other people to be inconvenienced. Not being able to order food deliveries is the biggie.

I think we both largely see this the same way.

For me, there are obvious hits you have to take to slow infection rates until the vaccine or effective treatments....like human border restrictions until a complete testing system is set up.

I wanted government to focus on setting up systems to address the vulnerable......I think they have distributed advice as well as they could on that...for those that want to hear it. But I don't know about how well they are doing on a practical level to ensure those at risk are catered for.....they are relying on the 'big society' for that.

Closing down the economy though and telling everyone to stay in.....I think that is far more dangerous for the whole economically and cause deaths by other means....and it isn't going to work anyway.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Mar 2020 11.30am)

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Mar 20 11.27am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Appears you can

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80% up to 」2900, in fact

Yup ok but then its taxed and NI.
Makes amockery of being paye really.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Mar 20 11.34am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

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The Federals Reserves own figures showing that A. The economy began to 'destroy' itself on Sept 17th last year and B. ''normal'' hasn't existed for a long while now.
As with every single 'fiat based system' throughout history, the current fiat-system also finally broke.............and it done this alone ie without the assistance of a germ.


Tux, I don't think going back to the gold standard....while a valid economic discussion point....It's not going to address what happens over the next coming months.

What's your take on what the government should be doing with this?

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 24 Mar 20 11.37am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

They aren't idiots, this isn't the black death. 95 percentage of all world cases are mild.

Destroying economies however....when you're all going to revert back to normal eventually....that could be said to be overly alarmist.

Until it morphs and starts on kids.
You want to take that chance? I dont personally but if your route was taken and it did then I reckon money wouldn't be your first concern.
Dont forget that although most are old with underlying health issues, some might not even have known that they had these issues. Many people dont until they dont wake up or drop down dead in the playground.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 Mar 20 11.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Until it morphs and starts on kids.
You want to take that chance? I dont personally but if your route was taken and it did then I reckon money wouldn't be your first concern.
Dont forget that although most are old with underlying health issues, some might not even have known that they had these issues. Many people dont until they dont wake up or drop down dead in the playground.

It will morph regardless.

Most evolutions of a virus are towards the milder stains as they survive longer and hence infect more......killing the host quicker also kills the virus quicker and hence they infect less and evolve more slowly.

Are you willing to destroy world economies on the small chance that this virus will morph into a mass killer?....Knowing that your are causing death by raising unemployment anyway....and that's ignoring the other self harming effects of this lockdown.

Also, you're all going to go back to normal at some stage....it doesn't make a lot of sense.

Edited by Stirlingsays (24 Mar 2020 11.46am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays


I don't think going back to the gold standard....while a valid economic discussion point....It's not going to address what happens over the next coming months.

The gold standard will be scrapped and our currencies will all be tied to toilet rolls in the future

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Until it morphs and starts on kids.
You want to take that chance? I dont personally but if your route was taken and it did then I reckon money wouldn't be your first concern.
Dont forget that although most are old with underlying health issues, some might not even have known that they had these issues. Many people dont until they dont wake up or drop down dead in the playground.

I don't think some of the people on here realise what a catastrophic effect it would have on the NHS if we didn't take action to isolate as much as we can. The service would be overwhelmed. It was struggling before the advent of Covid 19 and would not be able to cope with looking after patients with other conditions and at the same time caring for the thousands infected with Covid 19 needing hospital treatment.

 

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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

The gold standard will be scrapped and our currencies will all be tied to toilet rolls in the future

It would still be worth more than the Euro is now.

 


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