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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 08 May 20 12.41pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

It does make you think. Let's hope in time we get a more complete picture.

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Varadkar has said the same about Ireland.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 08 May 20 12.51pm

Sweden sees higher coronavirus death rate than US after refusing lockdown [Link]

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 08 May 20 12.53pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

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Varadkar has said the same about Ireland.

It certainly provides food for thought. Once reliable antibody tests come along the results are bound to be very illuminating.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 12.55pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Are you just slightly happy it's all going south for the tory party iyo of course. It does seem that way. You only see spanners.

Slightly happy ?No way, much prefer no deaths and tip my cap to Boris and say i was wrong, but unfortunately i was right, they are not that good,although done well in places, but far to many clangers, and over 30000 dead, so no slightly happy mate, but not suprised!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 1.02pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Fair enough. The initial problem, imo, was that no-one knew what we were dealing with and to a certain extent still don’t. It would appear the virus was around before we were aware and the Chinese seem to have been somewhat secretive about the whole issue. With regard to decisions being taken I can only conclude that these were on the advice of Senior Civil Servants, who the Government seem to have total confidence in (bizarrely). As an example, years ago when Poland were about to join the EU, an advisor whom I was friendly with, told the Government that only between 10-12000 would come and most would go back after a short time. This is not a dig at the Poles but trying to highlight the type of advice the Government receives. Couple that with each department working to a budget, there are disasters waiting to happen.
Hopefully the present situation will lead to massive changes in the way the Civil Service operates, but there again....

Hopefully spider, i have grown weary of believing anything any government say, not just this lot, although they are there to be shot at as they hold the baton, but would be just as critical of the opposition if they were in charge if big mistakes, such as the PPE in the midlands, were made! To be fair, i just don"t like people in authority lying to me, giving false figures, ducking the truth, thinking we are all stupid, which ever party they belong to, but you can only shoot at the party with the power!

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 May 20 6.31pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Hopefully spider, i have grown weary of believing anything any government say, not just this lot, although they are there to be shot at as they hold the baton, but would be just as critical of the opposition if they were in charge if big mistakes, such as the PPE in the midlands, were made! To be fair, i just don"t like people in authority lying to me, giving false figures, ducking the truth, thinking we are all stupid, which ever party they belong to, but you can only shoot at the party with the power!

Don't ever work for the public sector then! "thinking we are all stupid" sounds like some posters on here!!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 May 20 6.36pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Slightly happy ?No way, much prefer no deaths and tip my cap to Boris and say i was wrong, but unfortunately i was right, they are not that good,although done well in places, but far to many clangers, and over 30000 dead, so no slightly happy mate, but not suprised!

Reports are we had it here in December. How on gods earth could any government know how bad it was getting or going to get. Any one was going to get 'spannered' in that scenario.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 May 20 7.30pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Reports are we had it here in December. How on gods earth could any government know how bad it was getting or going to get. Any one was going to get 'spannered' in that scenario.

Totally agree. No one knew what they were dealing with ( apart from the Chinese). I do not believe anyone would have dealt with it better, although mistakes have been made, possibly due to “sucking up” to big business

 

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View Tim Gypsy Hill '64's Profile Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Flag Stoke sub normal 08 May 20 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Add Tim Gypsy Hill '64 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This kind of conspiracy theory is all over the internet.

Would you kindly give us the source of this particular version so it's probable reliability can be assessed.

When you do you might like to first check out this fact checking site:-

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Edited by Wisbech Eagle (07 May 2020 5.47pm)

"At the end of the day, it is clear that before we rush to place fact checking organizations like Snopes in charge of arbitrating what is “truth” ......, we need to have a lot more understanding of how they function internally and much greater transparency into their work."

3 years old, but worth a read.

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Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 8.16pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

Totally agree. No one knew what they were dealing with ( apart from the Chinese). I do not believe anyone would have dealt with it better, although mistakes have been made, possibly due to “sucking up” to big business

Yeah, big business will be the reason we go back to work, time will tell if it"s a right or wrong move.

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 08 May 20 8.23pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Reports are we had it here in December. How on gods earth could any government know how bad it was getting or going to get. Any one was going to get 'spannered' in that scenario.

Yeah, i heard that to, maybe after the reports the pm could have attended the first 5 meetings on the subject?Show a bit of interest surely? He didn"t, thats not great mate, is it?

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 08 May 20 8.42pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

Yeah, i heard that to, maybe after the reports the pm could have attended the first 5 meetings on the subject?Show a bit of interest surely? He didn"t, thats not great mate, is it?

I saw an interview last week by Piers Morgan with Tony Blair. Morgan asked him if he attended all Cobra meetings when PM. Blair stated I’m not sure I did, I can’t remember. Not the reply PM wanted, so probably not unusual, maybe they have confidence in the other members of Cobra. To say Boris was not interested is a bit low, maybe, just maybe, he was already suffering from Covid. Let’s not forget he nearly died

 

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