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Badger11 Beckenham 03 Jun 20 10.33am
Originally posted by jeeagles Talk about Hong Kong has gone very quiet. Everyone seems distracted. [Link] [Link] We do need to stand up to China however we also should not mislead the citizens of Hong Kong. We could not possibly accept 300,000 refugees all at once so we need to make it clear that if it comes to that there will have to be some sort of restrictions or a phased timetable. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 03 Jun 20 10.33am

Originally posted by jeeagles

Talk about Hong Kong has gone very quiet.
Everyone seems distracted.

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We do need to stand up to China however we also should not mislead the citizens of Hong Kong. We could not possibly accept 300,000 refugees all at once so we need to make it clear that if it comes to that there will have to be some sort of restrictions or a phased timetable.

One more point

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jeeagles 03 Jun 20 11.18am
Originally posted by Badger11 We do need to stand up to China however we also should not mislead the citizens of Hong Kong. We could not possibly accept 300,000 refugees all at once so we need to make it clear that if it comes to that there will have to be some sort of restrictions or a phased timetable. I don't think you'd end up with many refuges. What you would get is some protection from unfair treatment from the British Consulate which would make things more difficult for China. Was more pointing out about the wild ideas that were floating around some months ago about bio weapons and Chinese interference with social media.
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jeeagles

03 Jun 20 11.18am

Originally posted by Badger11

I don't think you'd end up with many refuges. What you would get is some protection from unfair treatment from the British Consulate which would make things more difficult for China.

Was more pointing out about the wild ideas that were floating around some months ago about bio weapons and Chinese interference with social media.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jun 20 12.07pm
Originally posted by Badger11 We do need to stand up to China however we also should not mislead the citizens of Hong Kong. We could not possibly accept 300,000 refugees all at once so we need to make it clear that if it comes to that there will have to be some sort of restrictions or a phased timetable. There are far more than 300,000 illegal immigrants in the UK. Chuck them out and then bring in some legal ones that actually respect our way of life. Red and Blue Army!
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ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 03 Jun 20 12.07pm

Originally posted by Badger11

There are far more than 300,000 illegal immigrants in the UK. Chuck them out and then bring in some legal ones that actually respect our way of life.

Red and Blue Army!

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Jun 20 12.30pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC There are far more than 300,000 illegal immigrants in the UK. Chuck them out and then bring in some legal ones that actually respect our way of life. If only I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Jun 20 12.30pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

There are far more than 300,000 illegal immigrants in the UK. Chuck them out and then bring in some legal ones that actually respect our way of life.

If only

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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jeeagles 17 Jun 20 8.56am
[Link] More trouble with China. India is possibly the only nation with the manpower to compete with China. I wonder if a devisive viral video will circulate today?
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jeeagles

17 Jun 20 8.56am

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More trouble with China.

India is possibly the only nation with the manpower to compete with China.

I wonder if a devisive viral video will circulate today?

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HKOwen Hong Kong 18 Jun 20 12.52pm
This is not a factor for Hong Kong Originally posted by jeeagles [Link] More trouble with China. India is possibly the only nation with the manpower to compete with China. I wonder if a devisive viral video will circulate today? Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 18 Jun 20 12.52pm

This is not a factor for Hong Kong

Originally posted by jeeagles

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More trouble with China.

India is possibly the only nation with the manpower to compete with China.

I wonder if a devisive viral video will circulate today?

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 19 Jun 20 7.46am
i was listening to a radio discussion yesterday, which raised a couple of points. Why can't the UK renew the lease on HK to try and reinstate its previous incarnation ? This was countered by the fact China will not seek to reduce its land mass. Look at the island-grabbing around the Pacific and areas like Taiwan and Kashmir. China is seeking to expand. And Asian culture, and specifically China, can be considered quite brutal, compared to western attitudes. If China wants something, then it's pointless negotiating. Unless you are willing to use military-style force to resist, then quite frankly the outcome is inevitable. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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i was listening to a radio discussion yesterday, which raised a couple of points.
Why can't the UK renew the lease on HK to try and reinstate its previous incarnation ?
This was countered by the fact China will not seek to reduce its land mass. Look at the island-grabbing around the Pacific and areas like Taiwan and Kashmir. China is seeking to expand.

And Asian culture, and specifically China, can be considered quite brutal, compared to western attitudes. If China wants something, then it's pointless negotiating.
Unless you are willing to use military-style force to resist, then quite frankly the outcome is inevitable.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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HKOwen Hong Kong 19 Jun 20 11.04am
Taiwan is not a land grab for China, it's a reunification with a secessionist province. The land mass of Hong Kong is irrelevant to China, the recovery was a matter of national prestige and gives the huge amount of illegal wealth in China to be laundered in the neighbourhood. In 1997 at the time of the handover Hong Kong represented 16% of China's GDP, now just 3%. People have to accept China is biggest kid on the block with the biggest stick. Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly i was listening to a radio discussion yesterday, which raised a couple of points. Why can't the UK renew the lease on HK to try and reinstate its previous incarnation ? This was countered by the fact China will not seek to reduce its land mass. Look at the island-grabbing around the Pacific and areas like Taiwan and Kashmir. China is seeking to expand. And Asian culture, and specifically China, can be considered quite brutal, compared to western attitudes. If China wants something, then it's pointless negotiating. Unless you are willing to use military-style force to resist, then quite frankly the outcome is inevitable. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 19 Jun 20 11.04am

Taiwan is not a land grab for China, it's a reunification with a secessionist province.

The land mass of Hong Kong is irrelevant to China, the recovery was a matter of national prestige and gives the huge amount of illegal wealth in China to be laundered in the neighbourhood. In 1997 at the time of the handover Hong Kong represented 16% of China's GDP, now just 3%.

People have to accept China is biggest kid on the block with the biggest stick.

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 20 Jun 20 6.19am
Originally posted by HKOwen Taiwan is not a land grab for China, it's a reunification with a secessionist province. The land mass of Hong Kong is irrelevant to China, the recovery was a matter of national prestige and gives the huge amount of illegal wealth in China to be laundered in the neighbourhood. In 1997 at the time of the handover Hong Kong represented 16% of China's GDP, now just 3%. People have to accept China is biggest kid on the block with the biggest stick. Your stuff in bold is the prevalent position. China's leadership and their "don't give a fook" mentality. I wonder how badly hit tourism is in HK and the impact on local industries and businesses.? China's growing economy on the mainland must benefit hugely from their lack of workers rights. The inevitable conclusion is one of assimilation and compliance to the new regime. "The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak
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Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 20 Jun 20 6.19am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Taiwan is not a land grab for China, it's a reunification with a secessionist province.

People have to accept China is biggest kid on the block with the biggest stick.

Your stuff in bold is the prevalent position. China's leadership and their "don't give a fook" mentality.
I wonder how badly hit tourism is in HK and the impact on local industries and businesses.?
China's growing economy on the mainland must benefit hugely from their lack of workers rights.

The inevitable conclusion is one of assimilation and compliance to the new regime.

"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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HKOwen Hong Kong 21 Jun 20 11.31am
Tourism in Hong Kong is overwhelmingly from China. From when the protests started last year combined with a very prevalent anti Mainland Chinese sentiment from people who describe them selves as Hong Kongers tourism is pretty much screwed. The home grown Ocean Park theme park has run out of money and Hong Kong Disney only getting Chinese visitors from Southern China after Shanghai Disney opened. The convention and exhibition business was decimated by the riots quickly followed by Covid. All in all, hospitality business in a terrible place. quote=Forest Hillbilly;3535449] Your stuff in bold is the prevalent position. China's leadership and their "don't give a fook" mentality. I wonder how badly hit tourism is in HK and the impact on local industries and businesses.? China's growing economy on the mainland must benefit hugely from their lack of workers rights. The inevitable conclusion is one of assimilation and compliance to the new regime. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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HKOwen

Hong Kong 21 Jun 20 11.31am

Tourism in Hong Kong is overwhelmingly from China.

From when the protests started last year combined with a very prevalent anti Mainland Chinese sentiment from people who describe them selves as Hong Kongers tourism is pretty much screwed. The home grown Ocean Park theme park has run out of money and Hong Kong Disney only getting Chinese visitors from Southern China after Shanghai Disney opened.

The convention and exhibition business was decimated by the riots quickly followed by Covid.

All in all, hospitality business in a terrible place.

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The inevitable conclusion is one of assimilation and compliance to the new regime.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 20 7.53pm
I suddenly remembered Hong Kong Fuey - I hope he's okay. He's probably being re-educated. Or his filing cabinet had a little accident. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Jun 20 7.53pm

I suddenly remembered Hong Kong Fuey - I hope he's okay. He's probably being re-educated. Or his filing cabinet had a little accident.

Red and Blue Army!

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Laszlo Panaflex 22 Jun 20 9.07pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC I suddenly remembered Hong Kong Fuey - I hope he's okay. He's probably being re-educated. Or his filing cabinet had a little accident. He's almost certainly considered racist now, isn't he?
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Laszlo Panaflex

22 Jun 20 9.07pm

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Originally posted by ASCPFC

I suddenly remembered Hong Kong Fuey - I hope he's okay. He's probably being re-educated. Or his filing cabinet had a little accident.

He's almost certainly considered racist now, isn't he?

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