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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 09 Jul 20 7.45am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

You make some valid points in your posts but lets address this notion of groupthink on race.

Black Lives Matter.

Whiteness.
White Lives Matter.
Its OK to be white.


First part good. Global organisations promoting the notion. Politicians going down on their knees. Statues pulled down whilst the police stand to one side. People encouraged to shop at 'black owned' business. All collective notions based on skin colour deemed by our leading cultural, buisness and policial elites to be be not only positive but ringfenced in terms of protection from criticism.

Next three parts? All bad. Things to be eradicated. Hate crimes to be even thought about, let alone promoted. A collective guilt and shame imposed because of events nobody in living memoroy played any part in, let alone profited from. 'Karens'. Told to read books. Or just leave. Get out of the way. Gammons openly derided. Don't even need to open their mouths. Just look at the way they look is more than enough justification.

Where is this group-think mentality coming from? Who is actively promoting it? Reinforcing it in our legal system through ideas such as 'hate crime' and so on? Conservatism by its very nature and its emphasis on meritocracy should be cosmopolitan. I truly get that. But we live in an age in which there is no true Conservativism being promoted.

You want us all to treat people as individuals then fine. A perfectly logical and rational position to take. But you cannot have 'group think' when it suits. We are either all categorised, and treated accordingly, by the pigment in our skin or we are not. The Left needs to make its mind up about that.


Edited by Matov (09 Jul 2020 7.06am)

Very eloquent Matov, what did you do for a living?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jul 20 9.18am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

Most black people I know don't view themselves to be representatives of a 'black community' that they are somehow responsible for the sins of. Nor do they hold a singular view on race relations that people get to push for them on their behalf without even knowing them, nor do they all think they are 'above the law'. Let's go easy on imagining that 99% of black people are the same person, who also is somehow lawless and - or should be apologising for the actions of others.


Edited by BlueJay (09 Jul 2020 1.41am)

I will nearly always try and specify which people I’m referring to, rather than a whole race. Some black people, young black people (in inner London), Street culture, gangs. But in the case of stop and search you don’t hear many for it. Problem is it’s essential to end knife crime and control drug crime and black on black killings but they oppose it even for a limited time to get things under control for everyone’s benefit.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jul 20 9.23am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That’s fair enough but apparently 100% of white people are the same person. And a richly empowered racist person at that.
I think the whole idea of the “black community” is odd. Of course people have friends and families but the idea that West Indians and Africans have any more in common than Welshmen and Canadians is questionable.

The young black people who say ‘’Innit dough, Mandem, bust him up’’ are responsible for all of this and they’re being protected, not even helped, with more generations coming through. Awful.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jul 20 9.29am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by sitdownstandup


Until the full story comes out it would be best to reserve judgement. The worst thing about politics is that people take sides on issues and don't choose to see from the opposite perspective. Almost like both sides are triggered and whatever the opposition's position they automatically have to oppose it. A lot of people who are left will constantly support all leftist issues and the same for people on the right.
If people are constantly thinking like this it's a pretty straightforward way to create division within society.


Edited by sitdownstandup (09 Jul 2020 6.36am)

That’s fair although the footage of them driving round the corner on the wrong side of the road, filming minutes before pulling over and the aggressive ‘For what? For what?’’ doesn’t need any more time to reserve judgement. I can see why they may have done it if it was because he’s fed up of being pulled over (in a blacked out car you don’t know who’s inside), but they went the wrong way about it. His aggression and her obstinacy should’ve been some compliance to trip them up. Instead lots of people see it for what it was intended to be, not what they hoped it would show. Then Dick apologises to them after saying the officers were cleared twice.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 20 9.40am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That’s fair although the footage of them driving round the corner on the wrong side of the road, filming minutes before pulling over and the aggressive ‘For what? For what?’’ doesn’t need any more time to reserve judgement. I can see why they may have done it if it was because he’s fed up of being pulled over (in a blacked out car you don’t know who’s inside), but they went the wrong way about it. His aggression and her obstinacy should’ve been some compliance to trip them up. Instead lots of people see it for what it was intended to be, not what they hoped it would show. Then Dick apologises to them after saying the officers were cleared twice.

Evidently apologised for so called "Distress" her officers caused those in the car who drove on the wrong side of the road,failed to stop when requested to do so and then showed "Attitude" towards the Police.Marvellous.

 

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

That’s fair although the footage of them driving round the corner on the wrong side of the road, filming minutes before pulling over and the aggressive ‘For what? For what?’’ doesn’t need any more time to reserve judgement. I can see why they may have done it if it was because he’s fed up of being pulled over (in a blacked out car you don’t know who’s inside), but they went the wrong way about it. His aggression and her obstinacy should’ve been some compliance to trip them up. Instead lots of people see it for what it was intended to be, not what they hoped it would show. Then Dick apologises to them after saying the officers were cleared twice.


I've only seen the video at the point when the 2 people are asked to come out of the car and would like to know what happens with the inquiry that's going on.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jul 20 10.11am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by sitdownstandup


I've only seen the video at the point when the 2 people are asked to come out of the car and would like to know what happens with the inquiry that's going on.

Funny how this tweet claims he didn’t drive on the wrong side of the road when he came round the corner on the wrong side of the road. If I had blacked out windows I’d expect to get pulled over as a price to pay for my entitled privacy. I don’t have a link to Bianca’s unedited video. It doesn’t show much apart from trying to film out of the back window and them filming for a while with the police following them or trying to get them to pull over after they drove off. If it was a simple case of car pulled over and police aggression they’d get a lot more sympathy. But she tried to set them up with their bad attitude to police doing the correct thing.

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 09 Jul 20 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

and they’re being protected, not even helped, with more generations coming through. Awful.


My theory is that all the caring socially liberal types are SO addicted, and I use that in the classical sense of the word, to virtue signalling that they do not want to help these people improve their lives. They want them festering away in s***ty council estates, scared to venture out of their own post-code, either being or doing stabbing and shooting. They literally get an endorphin rush from being 'anti-racism' to such an extent that they seek to ensure that buzz never goes away.

Would rather have a black underclass that they can pretend to champion whilst offering nothing positive by way of helping them but merely using them as a way of shining a light on how damn caring and thoughtful they are.

Throw in the money involved as well given the cash wasted on both the police and the legal profession and you have a self-sustaining circle jerk of white middle class types who are f***ing over an entire generation of kids, most of whom would probably leap at a real chance to move up the social ladder. But what good would they be then to the kind of w***ers we see taking the knee?

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 09 Jul 20 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


My theory is that all the caring socially liberal types are SO addicted, and I use that in the classical sense of the word, to virtue signalling that they do not want to help these people improve their lives. They want them festering away in s***ty council estates, scared to venture out of their own post-code, either being or doing stabbing and shooting. They literally get an endorphin rush from being 'anti-racism' to such an extent that they seek to ensure that buzz never goes away.

Would rather have a black underclass that they can pretend to champion whilst offering nothing positive by way of helping them but merely using them as a way of shining a light on how damn caring and thoughtful they are.

Throw in the money involved as well given the cash wasted on both the police and the legal profession and you have a self-sustaining circle jerk of white middle class types who are f***ing over an entire generation of kids, most of whom would probably leap at a real chance to move up the social ladder. But what good would they be then to the kind of w***ers we see taking the knee?

Something Geoff Norcott brilliantly presented on his BBC documentary. Surprised it was aired tbh.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Jul 20 1.13pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


My theory is that all the caring socially liberal types are SO addicted, and I use that in the classical sense of the word, to virtue signalling that they do not want to help these people improve their lives. They want them festering away in s***ty council estates, scared to venture out of their own post-code, either being or doing stabbing and shooting. They literally get an endorphin rush from being 'anti-racism' to such an extent that they seek to ensure that buzz never goes away.

Would rather have a black underclass that they can pretend to champion whilst offering nothing positive by way of helping them but merely using them as a way of shining a light on how damn caring and thoughtful they are.

Throw in the money involved as well given the cash wasted on both the police and the legal profession and you have a self-sustaining circle jerk of white middle class types who are f***ing over an entire generation of kids, most of whom would probably leap at a real chance to move up the social ladder. But what good would they be then to the kind of w***ers we see taking the knee?

That's only the half of it. What about the Race Relations Industry? Every major corporation now have diversity managers every university has a whole bunch of academics to study the field all at the taxpayers expense.

The Royal College of Arts has just withdrawn a job offer Head Of Diversity because the candidate is not black enough. Leaving aside the obvious question why do you need a Head Of Diversity* the poor sod got sacked by social media.

*Surely it is HR's job to ensure any employer sticks to the law that should be part of their role not a separate job.

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 20 1.23pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

That's only the half of it. What about the Race Relations Industry? Every major corporation now have diversity managers every university has a whole bunch of academics to study the field all at the taxpayers expense.

The Royal College of Arts has just withdrawn a job offer Head Of Diversity because the candidate is not black enough. Leaving aside the obvious question why do you need a Head Of Diversity* the poor sod got sacked by social media.


*Surely it is HR's job to ensure any employer sticks to the law that should be part of their role not a separate job.

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Not given the job on account of his colour? Where have I heard this before?

Edited by Willo (09 Jul 2020 1.24pm)

 

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So you guys decided to go all in the racism, you even got Willo to stick his head out like a little racist tortoise. This site just keeps giving, well done everyone.

 

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