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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jul 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The revenge of the bombed may well be meted out by increased terrorist activity against the UK in the future.


Don't fall into the trap of thinking it is 'revenge'.
This is about one ideology against another. It has been going on for generations.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Jul 20 7.18am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

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Here we go again ffs. An unknown type of pneumonia first reported by WHO in January emanating from.... Wuhan!

 

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Make these people live in cramped s***ty conditions, this is what happens. Weren’t they also exempt from testing on arrival?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Jul 20 2.10pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

So, do you wear a nearly pointless piece of fabric over your mouth and nose or not? 3-30% of particles trapped inside the mask of worn correctly. Big if. No particles prevented from being congested. Could actually be worse with it absorbing particles.

I think we could be in for further trouble regarding restrictions, control and economic suicide if ‘the virus is airborne’ doom mongering influences at least one government.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 2.12pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

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Here we go again ffs. An unknown type of pneumonia first reported by WHO in January emanating from.... Wuhan!

You wait ages for a bus and then two come along at once..

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jul 20 2.30pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Johnson is wearing a mask so that conclusively rules out them being of any use whatsoever.

Aren't these things actually spreading germs, when the mask is taken off what happens.

It is left with its germs to be re-used or re-cycled or trashed?

Has to be burnt immediately surely.

A gimmick.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Jul 20 2.33pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Johnson is wearing a mask so that conclusively rules out them being of any use whatsoever.

Aren't these things actually spreading germs, when the mask is taken off what happens.

It is left with its germs to be re-used or re-cycled or trashed?

Has to be burnt immediately surely.

A gimmick.

Once a year agree with you. This time it’s earlier than new year.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jul 20 2.36pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Once a year agree with you. This time it’s earlier than new year.

Really

So you are agreed to keeping Jairo now, think it was our joust.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 2.40pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Johnson is wearing a mask so that conclusively rules out them being of any use whatsoever.

Aren't these things actually spreading germs, when the mask is taken off what happens.

It is left with its germs to be re-used or re-cycled or trashed?

Has to be burnt immediately surely.

A gimmick.


There is growing evidence that mask wearing actual makes a significant difference. If we're looking to help the economy and reduce the potential burden on the healthcare system, we should take basic steps that help keep the infection rate low. Countries that have this best under control are not arguing over masks, they are wearing them.

Florida is at 15,000 known cases per day, god knows how many actual.. and a high number of full critical care wards. That will increase the death rate considerably. Once you're at 15k a day, even if people are careful it's incredibly difficult to get the number down without further lockdowns, and who wants that? Better to take steps to keep the number low and let it rumble along at that level, that way businesses have a fighting chance and if people need to be hopsitalised they can be. Doing our bit now is preferable to saying how stupid it all is, then being outraged when there's no hospital bed available if you or a loved one become ill.

But yes BoJo wearing one is largely symbolic. He's already had bad case of covid-19 so is unlikely to be able to get it again any time soon. He's wearing one because of the attitudes towards wearing them and for the sake of improving public health. Here's 70 mask studies for your reading list: [Link]

and a recent one: [Link]

"We do know social distancing reduces the risk of transmitting the virus by 90 percent, and wearing masks decreases the risk by 65 percent."

Implying that masks make things worse has no basis in reality. I wasn't overly in favour of a wear masks in shops mandate, but at least it would put a lot of this stuff to bed and serve a purpose. It looks like Boris will end up have to nanny the public on this one.

Edited by BlueJay (13 Jul 2020 3.51pm)

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jul 20 4.02pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay


There is growing evidence that mask wearing actual makes a significant difference. If we're looking to help the economy and reduce the potential burden on the healthcare system, we should take basic steps that help keep the infection rate low. Countries that have this best under control are not arguing over masks, they are wearing them.

Florida is at 15,000 known cases per day, god knows how many actual.. and a high number of full critical care wards. That will increase the death rate considerably. Once you're at 15k a day, even if people are careful it's incredibly difficult to get the number down without further lockdowns, and who wants that? Better to take steps to keep the number low and let it rumble along at that level, that way businesses have a fighting chance and if people need to be hopsitalised they can be. Doing our bit now is preferable to saying how stupid it all is, then being outraged when there's no hospital bed available if you or a loved one become ill.

But yes BoJo wearing one is largely symbolic. He's already had bad case of covid-19 so is unlikely to be able to get it again any time soon. He's wearing one because of the attitudes towards wearing them and for the sake of improving public health. Here's 70 mask studies for your reading list: [Link]

and a recent one: [Link]

"We do know social distancing reduces the risk of transmitting the virus by 90 percent, and wearing masks decreases the risk by 65 percent."

Implying that masks make things worse has no basis in reality. I wasn't overly in favour of a wear masks in shops mandate, but at least it would put a lot of this stuff to bed and serve a purpose. It looks like Boris will end up have to nanny the public on this one.

Edited by BlueJay (13 Jul 2020 3.51pm)

So if I wear a mask and keep my social distance, I reduce the risk by 155 %. That's f@cking awesome. I can even cure the virus if I wash my hands too.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Jul 20 4.09pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay


There is growing evidence that mask wearing actual makes a significant difference. If we're looking to help the economy and reduce the potential burden on the healthcare system, we should take basic steps that help keep the infection rate low. Countries that have this best under control are not arguing over masks, they are wearing them.

Florida is at 15,000 known cases per day, god knows how many actual.. and a high number of full critical care wards. That will increase the death rate considerably. Once you're at 15k a day, even if people are careful it's incredibly difficult to get the number down without further lockdowns, and who wants that? Better to take steps to keep the number low and let it rumble along at that level, that way businesses have a fighting chance and if people need to be hopsitalised they can be. Doing our bit now is preferable to saying how stupid it all is, then being outraged when there's no hospital bed available if you or a loved one become ill.

But yes BoJo wearing one is largely symbolic. He's already had bad case of covid-19 so is unlikely to be able to get it again any time soon. He's wearing one because of the attitudes towards wearing them and for the sake of improving public health. Here's 70 mask studies for your reading list: [Link]

and a recent one: [Link]

"We do know social distancing reduces the risk of transmitting the virus by 90 percent, and wearing masks decreases the risk by 65 percent."

Implying that masks make things worse has no basis in reality. I wasn't overly in favour of a wear masks in shops mandate, but at least it would put a lot of this stuff to bed and serve a purpose. It looks like Boris will end up have to nanny the public on this one.

Edited by BlueJay (13 Jul 2020 3.51pm)

Nanny the public is what people actually want. Look at all the back crap when the rules first came out.
Nothing has changed.
2m if you can 1m+ if you cant. Wash your hands and distance when you can. How f***ing hard is it really. People wanted a hand book so someone could be blamed and then the obligatory claim.
People need to grow the f*** up.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 4.39pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Nanny the public is what people actually want. Look at all the back crap when the rules first came out.
Nothing has changed.
2m if you can 1m+ if you cant. Wash your hands and distance when you can. How f***ing hard is it really. People wanted a hand book so someone could be blamed and then the obligatory claim.
People need to grow the f*** up.

You make a good point. Mixed messages is putting it lightly. Part of it is denial too, but this isn't something that's going to be wished away anytime soon. As you say, take basic steps to be respectful of others, good hygiene and all and I doubt we'll be going too far wrong.

 

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