My conscience is clear seeing as people who know they’re vulnerable stay ‘safe’ as people put it. And there are plenty of older people who’ve given up on social distancing and all this rubbish so don’t expect everyone to wear masks or even enforce them. They may do in supermarkets with the draconian bollox at the door and that’s about it. If you have someone in a shop that sells clothing items for £50-£100 an item minimum, they aren’t going to enforce this after a short time when whatever it takes makes them realise the customers spending means they have a job and they forget the power trip some of them may have, but apparently that’s Tesco, which was welcome in April I’ll admit, but not now.

Who’s they? I’ll find the research findings, if I can be bothered. I think it’s even on government websites. It was well documented months ago the pieces of cloth MIGHT only keep 18% of particles in. What’s the advised type of face covering they’re advising that keeps our these particles? What’s the material made of? Where is it sourced from? What were the controls on this experiment? It’s absurd.

You and others seem to have forgotten that this diseases hospitalises and kills mainly old people or people with serious health conditions, who know they have to isolate. But because they either haven’t or won’t isolate you are in the group of people who think we should ruin everyone and everything.

I agree on the hygiene, which is really the only worthwhile thing doing. Away from home I don’t touch my eyes, nose or mouth with my hands unless they’ve just been washed. But face cloths are pointless, and what happens when a cloth or scarf wearer barely protecting anyone else touches the token piece of cloth and then touches areas of the shop with his hands, including the card payment machine, which aren’t cleaned at the supermarket. Virtually nothing is apart from the token nonsense at the front door, which does serve one purpose, keeping the numbers inside low and the queues low, which is exactly what will happen with shops. It’ll kill off businesses. All for a virus people don’t know they have it’s so dangerous, the people we know who’re at risk but we somehow need to close everything down or discourage everyone from going to bring closure closer.

The denial about the damage this is doing would be hilarious if it wasn’t going to be so bad. I hope nobody on here has young adult offspring. Middle aged people could face redundancy as well.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (14 Jul 2020 10.17am)

The only place that concerns me is public transport. FFP masks are perfect for that, but they don’t protect others, not that a cloth mask people don’t wear tightly does anyway. The people trying to justify this sound like children making stuff up or justifying it to themselves with barely any logic whatsoever.

Possibly. But do I think a mask that’s taken on and off again and used day in day out is going to make much difference? No I don’t. All it is is a placebo for the too terrified to leave the house, with the looks and comments between them and those not wearing them. The twitter videos are going to be entertaining.

Thank you for caring by the way.