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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jul 20 12.35pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Fair enough, however, there were more fatal car accidents and murders during this time, than last year. In fact, the news and government, made a point of wondering how there were so many road fatalities during lockdown. I found it strange myself.

The dangerous driving during lockdown was obvious.
Domestic violence.
Cardiac patients down by 50%. Plenty dying.
Cancer patients not getting treatment or not going into GP with concerns for diagnosis.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jul 20 12.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

The over recording scandal is definitely gaining traction more and more. It starts on Twitter with those experiencing it but takes 3 months for it to make the MSM and then politics. I wonder why.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 Jul 20 1.21pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

And the question I would ask said care home bosses would be how you didnt have plans with all the dough you charge. Years to get ready but no, it's all the governments fault we gone done f***ed up.
Like I said ,scapegoats are easy in a time of crisis. Dead patients relatives should be asking these questions or families of the dead should have taken them home and shielded them, from early doors as they would have seen it happening.
Maybe a bit inconvenient I guess!

We did. Said this before. It was reliant upon promises made by Central and Local Government and these were not forthcoming. We also found guidance changed daily, especially on PPE.

Additionally, all Care Homes were under huge pressure from Government to accept people from NHS Hospitals to clear the beds, even though it was clear that would result in a massive spike in cases in Care Homes. This was a genuine scandal.

By the way, we are amongst the 16% of beds that are not in the private sector. We are a charity and make no profit.

Oh, and we are COVID free and have the only Care Home in Camden that stayed COVID free throughout the crisis to date. But it's incredibly hard to keep it out completely, if Hospitals can't do it with all of their equipment and expertise then it's pretty remarkable if a Care Home can.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 Jul 20 2.32pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

We did. Said this before. It was reliant upon promises made by Central and Local Government and these were not forthcoming. We also found guidance changed daily, especially on PPE.

Additionally, all Care Homes were under huge pressure from Government to accept people from NHS Hospitals to clear the beds, even though it was clear that would result in a massive spike in cases in Care Homes. This was a genuine scandal.

By the way, we are amongst the 16% of beds that are not in the private sector. We are a charity and make no profit.

Oh, and we are COVID free and have the only Care Home in Camden that stayed COVID free throughout the crisis to date. But it's incredibly hard to keep it out completely, if Hospitals can't do it with all of their equipment and expertise then it's pretty remarkable if a Care Home can.

Sounds very decent of you. Some achievement keeping the virus out. My mother used to work in care homes, as did my wife. A thankless task, they used to take the deaths to heart.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 19 Jul 20 2.37pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The over recording scandal is definitely gaining traction more and more. It starts on Twitter with those experiencing it but takes 3 months for it to make the MSM and then politics. I wonder why.

Boris must be organising it i guess!

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 19 Jul 20 2.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Sounds very decent of you. Some achievement keeping the virus out. My mother used to work in care homes, as did my wife. A thankless task, they used to take the deaths to heart.

Hear hear! I was just thinking the same thing!Well done that man!

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 19 Jul 20 2.58pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

We did. Said this before. It was reliant upon promises made by Central and Local Government and these were not forthcoming. We also found guidance changed daily, especially on PPE.

Additionally, all Care Homes were under huge pressure from Government to accept people from NHS Hospitals to clear the beds, even though it was clear that would result in a massive spike in cases in Care Homes. This was a genuine scandal.

By the way, we are amongst the 16% of beds that are not in the private sector. We are a charity and make no profit.

Oh, and we are COVID free and have the only Care Home in Camden that stayed COVID free throughout the crisis to date. But it's incredibly hard to keep it out completely, if Hospitals can't do it with all of their equipment and expertise then it's pretty remarkable if a Care Home can.

How dod you stay covid free and no one else did then.
Refusing patients back or total lockdown or a really useful way is to keep the same staff.
Many care homes wont take staff on the cards so different staff each day are inevitable.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 19 Jul 20 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

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Encourage you to watch this, especially the last minute. Confirms what I knew or believed has happened with face coverings.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Jul 20 8.31pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Illegal rave near Bath.

I get that the police were overwhelmed with the numbers but this started yesterday and did not finish until lunchtime today. Meanwhile the locals were rightly complaining that the music was so loud it could be heard at distance.

Obvious question why not cut the power to the event first light this morning? No music no rave.

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 Jul 20 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Illegal rave near Bath.

I get that the police were overwhelmed with the numbers but this started yesterday and did not finish until lunchtime today. Meanwhile the locals were rightly complaining that the music was so loud it could be heard at distance.

Obvious question why not cut the power to the event first light this morning? No music no rave.

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And we also have this:

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 Jul 20 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

We did. Said this before. It was reliant upon promises made by Central and Local Government and these were not forthcoming. We also found guidance changed daily, especially on PPE.

Additionally, all Care Homes were under huge pressure from Government to accept people from NHS Hospitals to clear the beds, even though it was clear that would result in a massive spike in cases in Care Homes. This was a genuine scandal.

By the way, we are amongst the 16% of beds that are not in the private sector. We are a charity and make no profit.

Oh, and we are COVID free and have the only Care Home in Camden that stayed COVID free throughout the crisis to date. But it's incredibly hard to keep it out completely, if Hospitals can't do it with all of their equipment and expertise then it's pretty remarkable if a Care Home can.

I think what cryst was trying to say was, some care homes have been making vast profits for years and have had time to prepare. They obviously spent very little of their profits on preparation and now are putting the blame solely at the Government’s door.
Good to hear your home is Covid free, as a matter of interest how did you manage this when virtually no one else did?

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 19 Jul 20 10.35pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I think what cryst was trying to say was, some care homes have been making vast profits for years and have had time to prepare. They obviously spent very little of their profits on preparation and now are putting the blame solely at the Government’s door.
Good to hear your home is Covid free, as a matter of interest how did you manage this when virtually no one else did?

Last I heard it had been present in around 50% of homes, more in London though. So I'd think decent planning and good fortunate is the answer. Best of luck to them over the winter months. Hopefully a combination of lessens now learned and measures known to have helped will give them a fighting chance.

 

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