Employees are now starting to realise what the new world of the virus means.

'They said I'd be cleaning toilets so I quit'

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Woman who worked in the Safari Park gift shop on her return to work is told she is now a cleaner.

Whilst I feel sorry for her to a point I am afraid that across the country staff are now being told to double up. Tesco has sacked the cleaning firm for it's Metro stores and told the staff they will now have to do it, harsh but this is the reality of the crisis.

One comment made me laugh from a clothing store employee "Cleaning is a skilled job". Err no it's not, at least not in a clothing store it maybe in a hospital but that is a different level entirely.

It's not just the shop staff I saw a comment that if staff can work from home and don't need to go into the office then why can't those jobs be done in another country, ouch.

Sadly we should expect to see a lot more of this.

Edited by Badger11 (24 Jul 2020 10.41am)

One more point

After 4 months and more I’m still waiting for the ‘carnage’ in supermarkets with staff and their families and families of families falling sick and dead. The same ‘carnage’ at the beaches but not at the riots or block party raves.

The irresponsible way the government are lulling vulnerable people into a false sense of security because they now feel safe with face cloths loosely protected ver the public’s muzzles is shocking. I experienced this last night. I thought I was in Eastbourne a few decades back. Oh but the virus is non existent anyway. Work that one out. A test of our compliance for a few reasons.

We’re into herd immunity anyway and this way unofficially we argue amongst ourselves instead of with the government or supermarket staff whose bodies and their family haven’t been piled up outside hospitals. Another moronic accusation I keep reading.

The best one I heard recently was someone say non mask wearer’s or anti Vaxers shouldn’t be entitled to medical care. I pulled the sanctimonious bint up on this face to face and she had nowhere to go. Why should I have a vaccine that isn’t proven to be safe? Fine if you’re vulnerable or old and the risk reward makes sense. And the mask she had was pointless so pretty easy to rubbish something virtuous or just to get you into a shop, because guess what, she can’t breathe without a more effective tight one.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (24 Jul 2020 11.48am)

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Anyway, who are we to think we can defy nature, the virus dying out or herd immunity? We made the mistake of not closing the airports or not locking everyone in their homes completely. The rest is just delaying or failing in trying to suppress a virus that is running its course no matter what.

The food places are a problem because they work so close and so long together. The virus could be on packaging or most likely just one person not following the hygiene guidance outside of work or social distancing who brings it in. These places have a lot of uninformed or poorly educated, illiterate people. I’m not making my decisions based on a food production line.

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About 8 people died of Covid yesterday wasn’t it? Well 8 had it on the death certificate. We’ve recently had more cases from more tests and mainly younger healthy people. Now the authorities convince old and vulnerable it’ll be safe for them because of untested cloth masks that aren’t worn correctly.

I’ve heard a few of the new celebrity doctors claim masks are going to be long term. Might be if you choose to. Only not if you’re eating or drinking. Just if you pass someone a metre away in a shop that has its footfall limited at the front door. On public transport I get it. This is for no other reason than to give confidence to some. Some who shouldn’t be taking the risks. The others are spineless who I’d rather stay in anyway.

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Good to see Spain doing it right. Strict lockdown. Well as strict as it can be without allotted time slots to the local shop only and people living in blocks of flats. Draconian rules on face coverings followed by outbreaks in cases and foreigners cancelling their holidays en masse. Make sure you wear your hanky.

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Mounting evidence shows masks may help avoid severe illness, even if you get COVID-19 - [Link]

"Gandhi noted another study, which examined passengers and crew on an isolated cruise ship in Argentina during the COVID-19 pandemic. All passengers and crew received masks, and out of the 217 passengers and crew on board, 81% of those infected with COVID-19 were asymptomatic.

Gandhi also cited an example where more than 100 workers at a seafood processing plant in Oregon were confirmed positive for COVID-19. Universal masking was required at the plant, and the vast majority — 95% of the workers — were asymptomatic.

The same happened two weeks ago at a Tyson chicken plant in Arkansas, where universal masking was required. In this case, out of 481 people who were infected, 455 were asymptomatic, which also led to a 95% asymptomatic rate.

The studies highlight that universal masking may help achieve rates of higher asymptomatic infection. In a viral pandemic, Gandhi said, one of the goals is to find ways to move toward milder disease manifestations."

Fascinating data is emerging and gaining momentum in this area, considering it's something that's not been widely considered until recently. It's also been demonstrated in animal models.

Edited by BlueJay (26 Jul 2020 7.18pm)