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palace chick South Croydon 04 Oct 20 12.19am
Originally posted by CT Charlie At halftime I suspect many of us were "satisfied." We'd played solid tactical defense and had conserved plenty of energy for the second half. Chelsea's early goal, on an ugly mistake, upended our "plans" for a scoreless draw or perhaps a lucky 1-0 victory. Deflated, we played lethargic. So, yes, it was a terrible 45 minutes. I think Roy's only reason for calling on Luka was to placate the former captain facing two long weeks of training. I wasn’t satisfied at half time - thought we were poor throughout and Chelsea upped a gear and Sakho helped them in the second half. Awful performance from majority of our players who looked lethargic in the 1st half also and no help from Hodgson / Lewington in the setting up of that team.
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palace chick

South Croydon 04 Oct 20 12.19am

Originally posted by CT Charlie

At halftime I suspect many of us were "satisfied." We'd played solid tactical defense and had conserved plenty of energy for the second half. Chelsea's early goal, on an ugly mistake, upended our "plans" for a scoreless draw or perhaps a lucky 1-0 victory. Deflated, we played lethargic. So, yes, it was a terrible 45 minutes. I think Roy's only reason for calling on Luka was to placate the former captain facing two long weeks of training.

I wasn’t satisfied at half time - thought we were poor throughout and Chelsea upped a gear and Sakho helped them in the second half. Awful performance from majority of our players who looked lethargic in the 1st half also and no help from Hodgson / Lewington in the setting up of that team.

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HKOwen Hong Kong 04 Oct 20 12.43am
If anyone can solve the puzzle we will be top six End of first half most people I would think had an expectation a hard earned draw or pinch a goal. Have a break now Originally posted by CT Charlie At halftime I suspect many of us were "satisfied." We'd played solid tactical defense and had conserved plenty of energy for the second half. Chelsea's early goal, on an ugly mistake, upended our "plans" for a scoreless draw or perhaps a lucky 1-0 victory. Deflated, we played lethargic. So, yes, it was a terrible 45 minutes. I think Roy's only reason for calling on Luka was to placate the former captain facing two long weeks of training. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.
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Hong Kong 04 Oct 20 12.43am

If anyone can solve the puzzle we will be top six

End of first half most people I would think had an expectation a hard earned draw or pinch a goal.

Have a break now

Originally posted by CT Charlie

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 04 Oct 20 12.59am
Agreed. I thought we were poor the first half. We looked sluggish from the get go. Originally posted by palace chick I wasn’t satisfied at half time - thought we were poor throughout and Chelsea upped a gear and Sakho helped them in the second half. Awful performance from majority of our players who looked lethargic in the 1st half also and no help from Hodgson / Lewington in the setting up of that team.
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Daddyorc

Atlantic Highlands, NJ 04 Oct 20 12.59am

Agreed. I thought we were poor the first half.
We looked sluggish from the get go.

Originally posted by palace chick

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thai-eagle chiang mai 04 Oct 20 3.44am
As long as we play two non-creative (although hard working) midfielders (McCarthy and MacArthur), there is no chance that our strikers get into the game. Chelsea took us to pieces most of the time - Eze was the only one taking on the opposition. Still not understand why Rieewald is kept out of the team now he is back to fitness (he was our best player pre-season)?
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chiang mai 04 Oct 20 3.44am

As long as we play two non-creative (although hard working) midfielders (McCarthy and MacArthur), there is no chance that our strikers get into the game. Chelsea took us to pieces most of the time - Eze was the only one taking on the opposition.
Still not understand why Rieewald is kept out of the team now he is back to fitness (he was our best player pre-season)?

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peterboroeagle peterborough 04 Oct 20 8.00am
Wilf was in sulk mode due to thinking he wouldn't be moving anywhere. This 2 week break has come at the right time for us, and him. I think Sakho played again because we want to offload him before Monday and he was put in the shop window. It didn't help with selling him, or our chances of getting something from the game however, when the display collapsed and it looked like a Primark shop window display.
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Wilf was in sulk mode due to thinking he wouldn't be moving anywhere. This 2 week break has come at the right time for us, and him.
I think Sakho played again because we want to offload him before Monday and he was put in the shop window. It didn't help with selling him, or our chances of getting something from the game however, when the display collapsed and it looked like a Primark shop window display.

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Melbourne Eagle Melbourne 04 Oct 20 11.17am
Agree Wilf was in sulk mode yesterday but was it because he probably won't be getting the move he craves or, like me, sulking because of our set up and lack of threat? Palace are bloody hard to watch in games like that, but I suspect it would be much harder to play up front for us in those games. I'll wait a few more games to decide if it was the former or latter.
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Agree Wilf was in sulk mode yesterday but was it because he probably won't be getting the move he craves or, like me, sulking because of our set up and lack of threat?

Palace are bloody hard to watch in games like that, but I suspect it would be much harder to play up front for us in those games.

I'll wait a few more games to decide if it was the former or latter.

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GujiMadDog England 04 Oct 20 1.46pm
Hard hard watch. Hodgson admitted we didn't offer anything upfront and yet stuck with the same old "trusted" game plan. Yes Sakho was awful but when you're being battered constantly mistakes will happen sooner or later. We need a plan b and c. It has been said by many of us for a long long time now. In reply the lack of squad depth has been cited time and again for the one dimensional game plan. We have spent well this summer but its going to take a more. An out and out, in the box striker would help imo. Batsman, Ayew, Zaha are not that ( and no I have not forgotten Benteke). In midfield we have creativity in meyer. Unfortunately his confidence has been waning over the past year aka read Sorloth. He must play more and definitely feature in a plan c if not b. You hear everywhere from everybody, you know what you're going to get with a Hodgson side. The question now is how long are we going to be happy with just survival. Is it worth the risk?
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England 04 Oct 20 1.46pm

Hard hard watch.

Hodgson admitted we didn't offer anything upfront and yet stuck with the same old "trusted" game plan.

Yes Sakho was awful but when you're being battered constantly mistakes will happen sooner or later.

We need a plan b and c. It has been said by many of us for a long long time now. In reply the lack of squad depth has been cited time and again for the one dimensional game plan.

We have spent well this summer but its going to take a more. An out and out, in the box striker would help imo. Batsman, Ayew, Zaha are not that ( and no I have not forgotten Benteke). In midfield we have creativity in meyer. Unfortunately his confidence has been waning over the past year aka read Sorloth. He must play more and definitely feature in a plan c if not b.

You hear everywhere from everybody, you know what you're going to get with a Hodgson side. The question now is how long are we going to be happy with just survival. Is it worth the risk?

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rollercoaster Cornwall 05 Oct 20 4.41pm
Originally posted by GujiMadDog Hard hard watch. Hodgson admitted we didn't offer anything upfront and yet stuck with the same old "trusted" game plan. Yes Sakho was awful but when you're being battered constantly mistakes will happen sooner or later. We need a plan b and c. It has been said by many of us for a long long time now. In reply the lack of squad depth has been cited time and again for the one dimensional game plan. We have spent well this summer but its going to take a more. An out and out, in the box striker would help imo. Batsman, Ayew, Zaha are not that ( and no I have not forgotten Benteke). In midfield we have creativity in meyer. Unfortunately his confidence has been waning over the past year aka read Sorloth. He must play more and definitely feature in a plan c if not b. You hear everywhere from everybody, you know what you're going to get with a Hodgson side. The question now is how long are we going to be happy with just survival. Is it worth the risk? Meyer has done almost nothing to justify a starting place in the side, maybe too easily knocked off the ball. Bats is an out-and-out box striker. The conundrum is finding some creativity in our midfield. Truth is our best 11 is being played and we would need to upgrade most of our defence and defensive mid to play one short with a new player better at creating than defending.
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Cornwall 05 Oct 20 4.41pm

Originally posted by GujiMadDog

Hard hard watch.

Hodgson admitted we didn't offer anything upfront and yet stuck with the same old "trusted" game plan.

Yes Sakho was awful but when you're being battered constantly mistakes will happen sooner or later.

We need a plan b and c. It has been said by many of us for a long long time now. In reply the lack of squad depth has been cited time and again for the one dimensional game plan.

You hear everywhere from everybody, you know what you're going to get with a Hodgson side. The question now is how long are we going to be happy with just survival. Is it worth the risk?

Meyer has done almost nothing to justify a starting place in the side, maybe too easily knocked off the ball. Bats is an out-and-out box striker. The conundrum is finding some creativity in our midfield. Truth is our best 11 is being played and we would need to upgrade most of our defence and defensive mid to play one short with a new player better at creating than defending.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Oct 20 4.46pm
Originally posted by Westina How the team that beat Man U were non existent today. How we had no desire to get anything out of the game. Why so many players were way off their best Why Wilf just didn’t seem to be interested...hardly broke sweat all game. Why we made such negative substitutions..would it not have been better to put Benteke on for the last half hour and put a few balls into the area? Why Sakho is preferred to Dann or Kelly. I don’t mind when we come up against a multi million pound team like Chelsea if we get beat but at least let’s show some guts and give it a go....we were very poor in all areas today and I do wonder about general moral when such gloom and doom is written on all of the players faces. i think its fair to say the title of the thread is quite apt. the over reaction to losing to a team that have spend 25x what we have this window when their squad was already full of superstars is laughable. thats the thing i dont understand. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by Westina

How the team that beat Man U were non existent today.
How we had no desire to get anything out of the game.
Why so many players were way off their best
Why Wilf just didn’t seem to be interested...hardly broke sweat all game.
Why we made such negative substitutions..would it not have been better to put Benteke on for the last half hour and put a few balls into the area?
Why Sakho is preferred to Dann or Kelly.
I don’t mind when we come up against a multi million pound team like Chelsea if we get beat but at least let’s show some guts and give it a go....we were very poor in all areas today and I do wonder about general moral when such gloom and doom is written on all of the players faces.

i think its fair to say the title of the thread is quite apt.

the over reaction to losing to a team that have spend 25x what we have this window when their squad was already full of superstars is laughable.

thats the thing i dont understand.

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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spartakev2 Anerley 05 Oct 20 4.58pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle i think its fair to say the title of the thread is quite apt. the over reaction to losing to a team that have spend 25x what we have this window when their squad was already full of superstars is laughable. thats the thing i dont understand. Well you obviously didn't watch the game then, because if you did you couldn't possibly not understand why people were reacting the way they are....or do you think we should role over like that every time we play one of the big boys
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Anerley 05 Oct 20 4.58pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i think its fair to say the title of the thread is quite apt.

the over reaction to losing to a team that have spend 25x what we have this window when their squad was already full of superstars is laughable.

thats the thing i dont understand.

Well you obviously didn't watch the game then, because if you did you couldn't possibly not understand why people were reacting the way they are....or do you think we should role over like that every time we play one of the big boys

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Oct 20 5.08pm
Originally posted by spartakev2 Well you obviously didn't watch the game then, because if you did you couldn't possibly not understand why people were reacting the way they are....or do you think we should role over like that every time we play one of the big boys sometimes we play s***, sometimes we dont. sometimes we compete against the top teams in the league, sometimes dont, it swings in roundabouts innit. in our 1st to games we beat the 2 form teams since project re-start then only narrowly lost to a very much in form everton. we have a run of very winnable games after this break. we have 6 points from 4 games, a very solid start given the opposition we have played. surely we have all been palace fans long enough to understand this.. ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Oct 20 5.08pm

Originally posted by spartakev2

sometimes we play s***, sometimes we dont.

sometimes we compete against the top teams in the league, sometimes dont, it swings in roundabouts innit.

in our 1st to games we beat the 2 form teams since project re-start then only narrowly lost to a very much in form everton.

we have a run of very winnable games after this break.

we have 6 points from 4 games, a very solid start given the opposition we have played.

surely we have all been palace fans long enough to understand this..

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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spartakev2 Anerley 05 Oct 20 5.39pm
Originally posted by braunstoneagle sometimes we play s***, sometimes we dont. sometimes we compete against the top teams in the league, sometimes dont, it swings in roundabouts innit. in our 1st to games we beat the 2 form teams since project re-start then only narrowly lost to a very much in form everton. we have a run of very winnable games after this break. we have 6 points from 4 games, a very solid start given the opposition we have played. surely we have all been palace fans long enough to understand this.. Yep, and it's the hope that kills you
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Anerley 05 Oct 20 5.39pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

sometimes we play s***, sometimes we dont.

sometimes we compete against the top teams in the league, sometimes dont, it swings in roundabouts innit.

in our 1st to games we beat the 2 form teams since project re-start then only narrowly lost to a very much in form everton.

we have a run of very winnable games after this break.

we have 6 points from 4 games, a very solid start given the opposition we have played.

surely we have all been palace fans long enough to understand this..

Yep, and it's the hope that kills you

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