Agree with you apart from the vaccine won’t be a little longer. Yes I’ve saying shielding would need to go on for longer until the virus subsides before a vaccine ever arrives.

I saw some tweets that we could’ve given people who truly need to shield £60,000 and left everything else untouched. No TTI or anything else.

That coach will get stopped. I guarantee it. The people on it will have different reasons and different opinions if they get it and different opinions of young people carrying on as normal, as they might already have. Up to them but I expect they’ll mix with other oldies.

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She's near the end of her life. I imagine she is going with similar aged people. Maybe they want some fun before they die. I mean, she could stay home and watch tv. On her own. Nobody to talk to. Nothing to laugh about. No reminiscing of "the good ol' days". No fun. Just watch tv and die lonely.

f*** that!

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I guess that's because the deaths haven't yet happened. There is obviously a time lag between infection and death. What the impact of the greater understanding and more effective treatments will be on the number of deaths I don't think is known yet either.

What is known is the infection rate increasing and that's enough.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Oct 2020 10.28pm)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

I certainly appreciate that there is nothing wrong with a lust for life, but while covid is water off a ducks back for many demographics, due to her age and chest issues she may be more in the crosshair than most. That's fine if people understand their elevated risk, but it's easy to see it all as a bit abstract and something than happens to 'other people'. Yes, they're mostly her age range, and so it will likely be a bit all or nothing (a non event if nobody has it, and likely a nightmare for multiple families if they're unfortunate enough that someone does).

If I said she wanted to have fun before she died so had decided to inject drugs with her mates, maybe we'd reach a conclusion that she was making a misstep . A slightly OTT example, but you get my point with regard to risk-reward. Sometimes a short term high comes at longer term cost and a few months wait for a vaccine (hopefully!) and living a less group based life for a little longer could be a good call. Life expectancy of an individual isn't the generic fixed figure from birth (82.9 for women) weighed down by young deaths. The average 77 year old has 11-12 whole years of life left, and I'd rather her hold onto a good few of those. Old timers often have a bit more life in them than they are given credit for. As you rightly say though ultimately it's up to her what she does, and it's just a concern for her really.

Edited by BlueJay (16 Oct 2020 11.09pm)

She already paid. It's called National Insurance FFS! Brought in when she was younger. You want it for yourself, but want her to pay for it again. Pathetic!

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