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BlueJay  UK 09 Nov 20 10.29pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
It's interesting how scientists are still working out the long term affects of covid 19 but already have a vacine. Well.. I mean they're not being injected with covid-19. Just a segment that means that the body can fight it and it can't propagate. It's probably best to lean towards scientific knowledge rather than scaremongering. Also, long term symptoms are of course a consequence of getting covid-19 to begin with. If there is a 90%M of that not happening as result of a vaccine, I would think that's a good thing. We don't always need to search for some unfounded, terrifying angle for something that is likely positive and that humanity will benefit from. We're in a pandemic. They're clearly not going to hang around for about 5 years, because the vaccine would be all but pointless then. Some groups are already at dire risk, so a vaccine is not some kind of unthinkable option. It's a rational one and as the months tick by, people will be able to make their own choices as and when it becomes available to them.
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 dannyboy1978  09 Nov 20 10.34pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Well.. I mean they're not being injected with covid-19. Just a segment that means that the body can fight it and it can't propagate. It's probably best to lean towards scientific knowledge rather than scaremongering. Also, long term symptoms are of course a consequence of getting covid-19 to begin with. If there is a 90%M of that not happening as result of a vaccine, I would think that's a good thing. We don't always need to search for some unfounded, terrifying angle for something that is likely positive and that humanity will benefit from. We're in a pandemic. They're clearly not going to hang around for about 5 years, because the vaccine would be all but pointless then. Some groups are already at dire risk, so a vaccine is not some kind of unthinkable option. It's a rational one and as the months tick by, people will be able to make their own choices as and when it becomes available to them.
If you want it have it, just like the flu jab!! I don't hear people moaning at those who don't get the flu jab.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Nov 20 11.23pm |
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 09 Nov 20 11.25pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Above and beyond all else, it's of course POSITIVE that this vaccine appears to be so effective. It may well save millions of lives. If the safety results are equally positive and it's offered first and foremost to those at serious risk of covid anyway, then that would seem like a sensible way to move forward. I fear that some have found themselves into such a nay saying space that they're almost annoyed at the apparent success at the vaccine. Of course if it had been ineffective then the approach would've been how people were fools for holding out hope for an effective vaccine to begin with. Sitting on the sidelines sniping at both efforts of individuals and the scientific community to make a meaningful difference to the trajectory of a pandemic. I fully understand the 'wait and see' attitude, and would never support any effort to twist anyones arm to have a vaccine, but people should mentally be able to both hold concerns but also see that potentially this is a development that it to be applauded. Not me. The only aggravation I’ll have is encountering those who say we should’ve done a New Zealand. I spoke to someone on Saturday morning before and they said we should have multiple lockdowns for another year or as long as it takes.
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| BlueJay UK 10 Nov 20 12.08am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Not me. The only aggravation I’ll have is encountering those who say we should’ve done a New Zealand. I spoke to someone on Saturday morning before and they said we should have multiple lockdowns for another year or as long as it takes. I'm with you on that. As much as we seek to protect people as risk, they also need to protect themselves. The first lockdown was understandable since covid was an unknown quality. This one, when businesses have already taken a monumental battering is concerning with its 'businesses shut - schools open' approach. My thought is, if it achieves little will they drag it on and on just to justify it.. Even though some understandably have concerns about the vaccine, I feel a certain relief in that it might at least shift the focus to vaccinating the at risk and letting the world get back to turning for the rest of us!
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| Laszlo Panaflex 10 Nov 20 12.33am |
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I don't feel that any vaccine should ever become "mandatory", it should always be up to the individual (or responsible adult, in those cases) as to what they want to put into their body. That said, I think that any decent vaccine, and this shows a lot of promise, should be made available on the NHS for everyone deemed "at risk". Basically, if you got told to shield, you're top of the list for the vaccine if you want it. If you don't, then that's your choice. Same situation for this in regular contact with it like doctors or nurses, they don't have to have it, but the choice is theirs. I know this virus does randomly kill otherwise healthy people, but that happens with other viruses and diseases too - they're called outliers and they happen. Your average person isn't likely to die from Covid-19, so why lock up most of the population if you've got a viable way to protect those most vulnerable?
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| Eden Eagle Kent 10 Nov 20 6.19am |
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Originally posted by Laszlo Panaflex
I don't feel that any vaccine should ever become "mandatory", it should always be up to the individual (or responsible adult, in those cases) as to what they want to put into their body. That said, I think that any decent vaccine, and this shows a lot of promise, should be made available on the NHS for everyone deemed "at risk". Basically, if you got told to shield, you're top of the list for the vaccine if you want it. If you don't, then that's your choice. Same situation for this in regular contact with it like doctors or nurses, they don't have to have it, but the choice is theirs. I know this virus does randomly kill otherwise healthy people, but that happens with other viruses and diseases too - they're called outliers and they happen. Your average person isn't likely to die from Covid-19, so why lock up most of the population if you've got a viable way to protect those most vulnerable?
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| dannyboy1978 10 Nov 20 6.23am |
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Originally posted by Eden Eagle
So mandatory!!!
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| Eaglecoops CR3 10 Nov 20 8.00am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
So mandatory!!! Yes, through the back door.
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Teddy Eagle  10 Nov 20 8.37am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Yes, through the back door. Wow. Wouldn’t mind it in the arm.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 10 Nov 20 9.03am |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Wow. Wouldn’t mind it in the arm. Are you concerned about the method of delivery of your suppository vaccine?
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| Teddy Eagle 10 Nov 20 9.05am |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
Are you concerned about the method of delivery of your suppository vaccine? I am now.
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