I don’t disagree with you jeeagles just to be clear.

Someone posted something about questioning the ability of a manager to motivate a team after a 7-0 mauling... I wholeheartedly agree.

I would say there’s a combination of factors at play here, without overstating or underplaying any of them

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

When they left, they were older than many of the players we currently have in the team, much cheaper signings, and could never be accused on not putting in a shift.

It might be down to their own professionalism, but if the manager is slumped in his chair at 3-0 or 7-0 down it's hardly inspiring.

As I’ve said many times before Allardyce walked away from this group of players. He and Pardew took us closest to relegation in 16-17 spending £85mil between them for the privilege.

Not sure what else the manager is expected to do when he’s been so badly let down btw

You are clearly confused Allardyce didn't put us near relegation at all he stopped us being relegated.

We needed better quality and pace which he managed to get the Americans to back all of those players are still main feature of the current squad.

The manger needs to motivate and try something different it's same old tactics over and over again and not using players to their strengths he just drops bodies in to do the same roles.

He is still play Kouyate at the back what is that about we have proper people that can play their and Wilf is not a striker plus his effort/attitude stinks he needs a strong hand to put him back in his place.

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What is really going on? 10 goals shipped in two games (and it could easily have been a few more at Villa Park.) And now Vardy & Co on the menu - OMG, anything less than 0-5 would be an improvment.
Roy H. seems like he is paralyzed, our "engine-room" of McArthur, Luka and Schlupp must be the worst in PL. Even Eze seemed like a lost soul.
A new mindset is clearly our option if we hope for survival. Younger, quicker, more hungry players need to be introduced - look at German Dortmund, they throw in 16 and 17 years in Champion League games.
At the moment we are the laughing stock of the league - something a little more drastic than shifting out Clyne for Ward and Benteke for Ayew needs to be done come Monday.

When Allardyce took over in Dec 16 we were fourth from bottom. By beginning of Feb 17 we were second bottom only above Sunderland on goal difference. We lost three of our last four games achieving our lowest points total since being back in the Prem of 41. He then “retired”