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View StrangerThing's Profile StrangerThing Flag Brisbane 26 Dec 20 11.10pm Send a Private Message to StrangerThing Add StrangerThing as a friend

The 7 game run last season was the warning sign and the summer additions weren’t enough. One plays, one on the bench and one injured. Couple that with a Manager who refuses to rotate and we are in danger. We were being massacred out wide today, both Ward and PVA caught out further up consistently. We need pace at the back and in the covering positions. I think we are in real trouble.

 

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View Palacesince64's Profile Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 26 Dec 20 11.26pm Send a Private Message to Palacesince64 Add Palacesince64 as a friend

PVA was caught upfield when they broke upfield for the secondHe should have been busting a gut to get back but just jogged aimlessly up the middle. With that attitude, a makeshift centre back and 2 ageing defenders we were there for the taking. We need to bring back Mitchell for PVA, push Kouyate back into midfield and pray that Cahill recovers quickly and stays injury free for the rest of the season. Who else do we have?

How about Benteke at centre half! At least he can head the ball.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Dec 20 1.58am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I have now tipped to the WTF is Roy doing with starting line up side of the fence. If Tomkins is fit how can he not start as CB. Ward selected over Clyne???

 


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View Sherlock II's Profile Sherlock II Flag The Big Mango 27 Dec 20 3.57am Send a Private Message to Sherlock II Add Sherlock II as a friend

We looked like a disorganised team of disinterested has-beens and never-weres. It's going to be a long winter of discontent if this dross with no plan B keeps being served up.

 


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View The Dolphin's Profile The Dolphin Flag 27 Dec 20 7.31am Send a Private Message to The Dolphin Add The Dolphin as a friend

Sorry - I haven't read the thread since the end of the game yesterday so excuse any repetition.
Our league record over the last 38 games is played 38 - won 10 - drawm 9 - lost 19 - GD is -23.
This would just about keep us up in a normal season.
I don't expect to get in to Europe or to win the League but I do expect us to be safe each season now without a worry - mid table mediocrity if you like.
Yesterdays defeat - there is no shame in losing away at Villa.
After all this is their second season in the Premier League and they narrowly avoided relegation last year so we fully expect to get embarrassed and thumped by them - of course we do!
We were clueless yesterday - part because of our ageing squad of course but more because our Manager puts square pegs in round holes ( just like Pardew)and then, when given the gift of playing 45 minutes against ten men does absolutely nothing to change tactics at all and just watches us turn up blind allies whilst letting in more goals and that to me is very scary indeed.
We have enough good players to have got a least a draw yesterday but we cannot do it.
Yes of course the players must take some of the blame but they play the way they are told to play bar some individual errors which happen to every team in every game.
There was no plan, no togetherness or team spirit, we played too slowly whilst Villa played at speed, we gave away needless free kicks - the list is endless.
The players do not look like they want to play for Hodgson now - it really shows in my opinion.
So many players playing out of position and one or two just not doing their jobs at all with PVA being the number one example of that - he is everything that is wrong in football today, bling and flashy with no substance - like Wickham - in love with being a footballer but not in love with football.
If the teams below us win their games in hand we are in 16th place albeit 7 points off the relegation spots and we shouldn't be.
We have Leicester next and let's be fair, they should on paper give us another thumping.
Our Manager needs to be relieved of his duties and we need someone who at least has a plan because right now we are absolutely not too good to go down this season.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 27 Dec 20 10.06am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

What is frustrating is the team that played Leeds was fast, interested, basically up for it. More or less same players can produce almost opposite performances.

Ferguson, what the actual fock is going on there.
The " three teams worse than us " are getting closer except for one.

I didn't think I would be giving any thought to BHA results after our first ten games or so. Now I am looking at those near us as I think it's out of our own hands for rest of season if we perform like that

Edited by HKOwen (27 Dec 2020 10.08am)

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 20 10.30am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

What is frustrating is the team that played Leeds was fast, interested, basically up for it. More or less same players can produce almost opposite performances.

Ferguson, what the actual fock is going on there.
The " three teams worse than us " are getting closer except for one.

I didn't think I would be giving any thought to BHA results after our first ten games or so. Now I am looking at those near us as I think it's out of our own hands for rest of season if we perform like that

Edited by HKOwen (27 Dec 2020 10.08am)

But then Leeds are easy to play against. When given the time and space ( Leeds, West Brom - and to a slightly lesser extent, Fulham ), we have players that can take advantage. When that time and space isn't there, we have problems.

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Dec 20 10.41am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Where's Patrick? It's a game a bit like Where's Wally?
Clue: he's not where you think he might be!

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 10.52am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

In relation to the Traore effort that hit the post,the player was able to get through the middle of TWO of our players with such ease and then Milivojevic made a half-hearted effort to challenge before Traore unleashed his shot.A similar Milivojevic token effort in about the same position on the pitch when Salah cut in and scored Liverpool's 7th goal.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 27 Dec 20 10.53am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

I thought yesterday's defeat was more painful than the Liverpool result. Villa themselves could have had 7 had their finishing been better.

We looked like a veterans team playing a bunch of eager youngsters.

All the short termism that permeates the club could come home to roost this season.

The back 4 are short of pace. PVA goes AWOL but there isn't anyone covering for him anymore. The central midfield yesterday consisted of a yellow card per game liability and a 33 year old who never hides but just can't influence games anymore. Eze has been a major disappointment over the last 3 games - he's flavour of the month with the pundits, but he's looked out of his depth recently.

It's sad when you see a players ' legs go '. Back in the day I watched Micky Droy go very suddenly and more recently and more gradually, Jason Puncheon. I looked at yesterdays team thinking Luka, McArthur, Dann are at various stages of the process. 3 out of 10 outfield players.

The way Leicester play, it's hard to see anything other than another defeat, potentially another heavy one. Hodgson needs to shuffle the pack although currently that resembles rearranging the lifeboats on the Titanic.

We need to get points on the board, so I think Roy will consider reverting back to more trusted ways and try to make us harder to play against.

Mr. Parish needs to find some money in this window - but of course, we all know how that usually turns out.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Dec 20 10.56am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I thought yesterday's defeat was more painful than the Liverpool result. Villa themselves could have had 7 had their finishing been better.

We looked like a veterans team playing a bunch of eager youngsters.

All the short termism that permeates the club could come home to roost this season.

The back 4 are short of pace. PVA goes AWOL but there isn't anyone covering for him anymore. The central midfield yesterday consisted of a yellow card per game liability and a 33 year old who never hides but just can't influence games anymore. Eze has been a major disappointment over the last 3 games - he's flavour of the month with the pundits, but he's looked out of his depth recently.

It's sad when you see a players ' legs go '. Back in the day I watched Micky Droy go very suddenly and more recently and more gradually, Jason Puncheon. I looked at yesterdays team thinking Luka, McArthur, Dann are at various stages of the process. 3 out of 10 outfield players.

The way Leicester play, it's hard to see anything other than another defeat, potentially another heavy one. Hodgson needs to shuffle the pack although currently that resembles rearranging the lifeboats on the Titanic.

We need to get points on the board, so I think Roy will consider reverting back to more trusted ways and try to make us harder to play against.

Mr. Parish needs to find some money in this window - but of course, we all know how that usually turns out.

I garland these comments with concurrence.
I tip my hat.

 

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 27 Dec 20 11.38am Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I thought yesterday's defeat was more painful than the Liverpool result. Villa themselves could have had 7 had their finishing been better.

We looked like a veterans team playing a bunch of eager youngsters.

All the short termism that permeates the club could come home to roost this season.

The back 4 are short of pace. PVA goes AWOL but there isn't anyone covering for him anymore. The central midfield yesterday consisted of a yellow card per game liability and a 33 year old who never hides but just can't influence games anymore. Eze has been a major disappointment over the last 3 games - he's flavour of the month with the pundits, but he's looked out of his depth recently.

It's sad when you see a players ' legs go '. Back in the day I watched Micky Droy go very suddenly and more recently and more gradually, Jason Puncheon. I looked at yesterdays team thinking Luka, McArthur, Dann are at various stages of the process. 3 out of 10 outfield players.

The way Leicester play, it's hard to see anything other than another defeat, potentially another heavy one. Hodgson needs to shuffle the pack although currently that resembles rearranging the lifeboats on the Titanic.

We need to get points on the board, so I think Roy will consider reverting back to more trusted ways and try to make us harder to play against.

Mr. Parish needs to find some money in this window - but of course, we all know how that usually turns out.

Mr Parish must have the phone number of the local knackers yard. Best thing would be to make that call. There are now too many old men letting down the team (including the manager).

 


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