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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 17 Jan 21 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by sotac464
So you dont think we will get 15 points from our next 20 games? I'd be amazed if we don't get a minimum of 20. I am far from convinced we will attain a further 15 pts. The physical demands on the squad will become even greater, injuries could play their part and aged players take that much longer to recover than they would have done in their pomp.
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Badger11 Beckenham 17 Jan 21 4.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am far from convinced we will attain a further 15 pts. The physical demands on the squad will become even greater, injuries could play their part and aged players take that much longer to recover than they would have done in their pomp. You are Hol's own version of Lawro.
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sotac464 Berkshire 17 Jan 21 7.29pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am far from convinced we will attain a further 15 pts. The physical demands on the squad will become even greater, injuries could play their part and aged players take that much longer to recover than they would have done in their pomp.
Sheffield United gone, Burnley have scored 9 goals all season, Fulham battling but drawing too many, West Brom look at there squad compared to ours. Bfs would love to have a team like ours, I think we will end up between 11-13th and be comfortably safe by April.
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lefty27 ipswich 17 Jan 21 10.06pm | |
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Originally posted by Willo
I am far from convinced we will attain a further 15 pts. The physical demands on the squad will become even greater, injuries could play their part and aged players take that much longer to recover than they would have done in their pomp. Every season since we have been promoted you post negative stuff like this.
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Palacesince64 Edinburgh 17 Jan 21 11.04pm | |
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Originally posted by sotac464
Agreed. Around 12th is where we belong. Too steady to be relegated but not good enough to get into the top half and in contention for Europe. Sourness said “Palace’s target each season is to avoid relegation”. On that basis we’re consistently winning our league. Unless the owners find a rich buyer from the middle/Far East this is as good as it gets. The alternative is to go down, start enjoying watching the football again and focus on the academy and bring through youngsters to sell on to the big boys.
Sheffield United gone, Burnley have scored 9 goals all season, Fulham battling but drawing too many, West Brom look at there squad compared to ours. Bfs would love to have a team like ours, I think we will end up between 11-13th and be comfortably safe by April.
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Palacesince64 Edinburgh 17 Jan 21 11.07pm | |
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Originally posted by sotac464 .
Sheffield United gone, Burnley have scored 9 goals all season, Fulham battling but drawing too many, West Brom look at there squad compared to ours. Bfs would love to have a team like ours, I think we will end up between 11-13th and be comfortably safe by April.
Agreed. Around 12th is where we belong. Too steady to be relegated Unless the owners find a rich buyer from the middle/Far East this is as good as it gets. The alternative is to go down, start enjoying watching the football again and focus on the academy and bring through youngsters to sell on to the big boys.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Jan 21 9.03am | |
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Originally posted by Palacesince64
Agreed. Around 12th is where we belong. Too steady to be relegated Unless the owners find a rich buyer from the middle/Far East this is as good as it gets. The alternative is to go down, start enjoying watching the football again and focus on the academy and bring through youngsters to sell on to the big boys.
The only way we are going to challenge the big boys is with a mega rich owner who's prepared to bankroll a project to take the club to the upper reaches of the PL to challenge for one of the CL places, and even win a trophy or two. After all, Chelski and Citeh weren't doing a great deal league wise until the money came flooding in and both those clubs are traditionally much bigger clubs than us with more successful histories.
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leejaneagles 18 Jan 21 10.00am | |
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Originally posted by doombear
The only way we are going to challenge the big boys is with a mega rich owner who's prepared to bankroll a project to take the club to the upper reaches of the PL to challenge for one of the CL places, and even win a trophy or two. After all, Chelski and Citeh weren't doing a great deal league wise until the money came flooding in and both those clubs are traditionally much bigger clubs than us with more successful histories.
Do we need a rich Arab owner to win the Title or finish top 6? Yes of course we do. But we do not need to get relegated to start playing good football and build from the Academy. It's okay to play turgid football to stay up for the first 3 seasons max. We are well past that. If we continue we'll end up caught up in a battle one year and go down with nothing to build on and probably finish mid-table in the Championship the following year. After year 3 in the Prem, the Club should've set out a road map like Southampton and followed it. Start introducing X amount of academy products when we are safe, replace 25% of over 30's in the transfer window etc etc. When playing dire stuff like we are playing now, allow it for a game or 2 (City away is fine) but then start asking the Manager what his plans are to move us away from this. Yes we will stay up this season but it's coming to an end. All you ask is when we are relegated we are in a better position than when we entered the Premier League and we are not. Which is appalling for the amount of time we've been in it now.
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AERO 18 Jan 21 10.22am | |
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After 55 years following palace last night I couldn't bring myself to even watch the game my Mrs thought I was ill.We are horrible to watch defence is among worst in league,and we can't score or create much. To be honest rather get relegated and rebuild with our youngsters.As mentioned in this thread we don't seemed to have progressed after all these years in top flight. Certainly time for Roy to leave and believe if crowds were present in grounds he would have been gone already .
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Jan 21 11.25am | |
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Originally posted by leejaneagles
Do we need a rich Arab owner to win the Title or finish top 6? Yes of course we do. But we do not need to get relegated to start playing good football and build from the Academy. It's okay to play turgid football to stay up for the first 3 seasons max. We are well past that. If we continue we'll end up caught up in a battle one year and go down with nothing to build on and probably finish mid-table in the Championship the following year. After year 3 in the Prem, the Club should've set out a road map like Southampton and followed it. Start introducing X amount of academy products when we are safe, replace 25% of over 30's in the transfer window etc etc. When playing dire stuff like we are playing now, allow it for a game or 2 (City away is fine) but then start asking the Manager what his plans are to move us away from this. Yes we will stay up this season but it's coming to an end. All you ask is when we are relegated we are in a better position than when we entered the Premier League and we are not. Which is appalling for the amount of time we've been in it now.
The club has acknowledged that they are adopting a policy of bringing in youth and I'm sure they mean to, but it's not going to happen overnight. Our problem has been (and people seem to forget this) that we only rose from the ashes of administration ten years ago and surprised ourselves by reaching the PL quicker than we could have imagined and unlike the previous occasions we didn't go straight down again. We spent a lot of money (for us) buying players to keep us up, which was fine at the time but left us short in recent years. Indeed, since Hodgson came in we've probably recouped more money from sales (AWB and Sorloth) than we have spent buying new players (I'm excluding the signing on fees for the so-called free players). On that basis, what you understandably say should happen after 3 years is only now beginning to happen at Palace after nearly 8. It seems to me we are in a race against time to 'grow' our squad from the academy before relegation threatens. I suspect that Parish and Co may be happy for Hodgson to continue until we are in a position to move to the next stage. Edited by doombear (18 Jan 2021 11.41am)
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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jan 21 11.28am | |
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Originally posted by AERO
After 55 years following palace last night I couldn't bring myself to even watch the game my Mrs thought I was ill.We are horrible to watch defence is among worst in league,and we can't score or create much. To be honest rather get relegated and rebuild with our youngsters.As mentioned in this thread we don't seemed to have progressed after all these years in top flight. Certainly time for Roy to leave and believe if crowds were present in grounds he would have been gone already . I've been quite similar. I do blame Covid and the absence of crowds too. At Palace when the football is crap, there's usually some banter amongst the supporters. Now it's crap football, no beer and no banter.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Jan 21 11.53am | |
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Originally posted by AERO
After 55 years following palace last night I couldn't bring myself to even watch the game my Mrs thought I was ill.We are horrible to watch defence is among worst in league,and we can't score or create much. To be honest rather get relegated and rebuild with our youngsters.As mentioned in this thread we don't seemed to have progressed after all these years in top flight. Certainly time for Roy to leave and believe if crowds were present in grounds he would have been gone already .
I'll reserve judgement on Hodgson until after the Fulham game when we should have a fair idea of whether or not we are likely to become embroiled in the relegation scrap.
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