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cryrst The garden of England 06 Feb 21 2.41pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Palace 99, rather than repeat your post here's my reply. Firstly, 'mea culpa' but I didn't count the number of players in your list. Secondly, I don't believe that every outgoing player will be replaced unless the Board (i.e. our US investors) have a sudden Santa spirit and make lots of cash available. I'm not expecting that. Thirdly, my reference to '1 or 2', on reflection, should probably have read 'a few'. Fourthly, given the revelation of Hodgson's comments concerning his future which are linked to his wanting the board to sort out the expiring player contracts before discussing his own situation, we simply don't know who will be in charge next season. Fifthly, if too many players choose not to renew contracts offered to them, it will be a question of whether the board will (reluctantly) put their hands in their pockets for a major overhaul or tell the manager (whoever) to work with what they've got (plus a few new players) with any balance of the first team squad vacancies being filled from the U23s/U18s. It's no coincidence, in my view, that so many of our youngsters went out on loan in the last week of the recent transfer window. In short I see a major overhaul as a last resort. You may, of course, be right and I'll have to eat humble pie. Time will tell. Meanwhile let's enjoy the rest of the season in the growing likelihood of another season in the PL. Blimey it's like an autopsy with you two, jesting of course
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Painter Croydon 06 Feb 21 3.04pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
So of those ten players, two aren't even in our 25 man squad so don't need replacing, one is a loan and of the other seven, I can see thee going (Wickham, Sakho and Hennessey). As for the other four, it could go either way. Obviously, if all four were to go then we would have a major shake-up. But will they? Then there is the question of which of our senior Academy players out on loan might do well enough to be replacements? For example, if Woods, Pierrick and Kirby improve, they may well become full squad players next season. Edited by doombear (04 Feb 2021 10.55am) I doubt if more than 4 leave in the summer. Its cheaper to give them extended contract on slightly enhanced wages, than buy in new players. As the contracts are ending they are free to leave with no fee. Unless Freeman pulls many rabbits out of the hat and finds 6 of more bargin buys from somewhere, we are going to be stuck having to give current players new contracts.
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Pierre Purley 06 Feb 21 3.30pm | |
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Like other posters have commented and as much as it pains me as well, a lot of supporters might like a new manager with a new plan, emphasis on fast flowing entertaining football and all that from a much younger squad that's full of energy and vitality.
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Elphers40 Northants 06 Feb 21 3.36pm | |
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I think Roy sounds like he is starting to cast an eye towards retirement. His previous position seems to have softened in the last couple of weeks and he acknowledged in the Leeds presser that the longer term is something he is not sure of. This thread started off with the suggestion of Chris Wilder - he’s done fantastic jobs at Northampton, Oxford and Sheff U. IF we could snaffle him from them (BIG IF) he’d be my first choice. I read somewhere that BIg Sam recommend him to the board when he quit. I wouldn’t be disappointed with Dyche or Howe either. I think Dyche fits his style of play to the players at his disposal better than anyone in the league and would be a safe bet for us. What he has done with Burnley is remarkable really - 2 promotions, successive Prem Survivals and Europe. That would simply not have happened for Burnley without him. He hasn’t spent much money in the process either and has shown he can develop and improve players too. Howe offers something different- in that his team’s play attractive football and play on the front foot. I know there will be those that point to Bournemouth’s relegation from the Prem and money spent as a reason to swerve him. But I do think they suffered terrible injuries and Fraser refusing to play was also an unwelcome disruption for the squad- excuses? Maybe. But we are talking here about Bournemouth - from 4th Division to successive survivals in the Prem playing some really good stuff along the way. Again without Howe at Bournemouth things are likely to have been very different. As Willo points out in Howe’s short spell at Burnley he made some notable signings and I would add Jay Rod to to that list - who clearly had his early promise curtailed by some horrible injuries. Any of these three would be decent appointments in my book. I
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Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Feb 21 3.40pm | |
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Can you imagine Chris Wilder trying to implement his mobile, overlapping centre-backs strategy on 35-year-old Gary Cahill and 33-year-old Scott Dann? Based on their mobility we'd be better off recruiting the bloke who looks after the statues in Trafalgar Square.
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spartakev2 Anerley 06 Feb 21 4.48pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
So of those ten players, two aren't even in our 25 man squad so don't need replacing, one is a loan and of the other seven, I can see thee going (Wickham, Sakho and Hennessey). As for the other four, it could go either way. Obviously, if all four were to go then we would have a major shake-up. But will they? Then there is the question of which of our senior Academy players out on loan might do well enough to be replacements? For example, if Woods, Pierrick and Kirby improve, they may well become full squad players next season. Edited by doombear (04 Feb 2021 10.55am) Wickham and Hennessey are both in our 25 man squad....
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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 06 Feb 21 8.02pm | |
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This summer, starting now to be honest, we need a plan implemented and an ethos. We aren't going down, but we need to rebuild for next season. We need a manager and set up that has an eye for bargains and lower league talent hungry to make it. We need to reduce the big earners with no return. Tekkers, Sako, Wickham need shot. We need to look at it as a team starting fresh in the prem for the 21/22 season. We don't want to be held hostage to wages, we don't want to be fooled into thinking top 10 is the aim. We need a goal of getting to 40 points in record time and enjoying it along the way. Sell Zaha and his money can bring in two players. Another loan signing and we should be ok as we evolve into a sustainable prem club with youthful players coming through asking questions.
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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Feb 21 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by spartakev2
Wickham and Hennessey are both in our 25 man squad....
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 06 Feb 21 8.39pm | |
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i cant think of one manager we could realistically get if roy left this summer...the guy is a miracle worker on what, during his tenure has equated to £2.5m a season budget. i hope to god he signs a new contract to see us through what is going to be a difficult squad transition. dislike the style of play if you such desire, but dont dis-respect the job he has done.
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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 06 Feb 21 8.52pm | |
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I would be happier with Lampard over both Howe and Dyche. However, Dyche in a way would be like Roy. Shoestring, always just trying to stay up. Dunkirk spirit.
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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 06 Feb 21 8.55pm | |
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Originally posted by kevlee
I would be happier with Lampard over both Howe and Dyche. However, Dyche in a way would be like Roy. Shoestring, always just trying to stay up. Dunkirk spirit. can i please ask, what has lampard done to warrant getting the job as manager of cpfc? i like frank btw, just not sure he is ready for the job.
‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway |
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spartakev2 Anerley 06 Feb 21 9.21pm | |
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Originally posted by doombear
Yes they were.....
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