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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 05 Mar 21 2.12pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

We're 8th in terms of shots to goals ratio, for what it's worth [Link]

I think because we sit so deep when we get chances they tend to be against stretched defences and so are perhaps clearer cut.


That’s true, Patrick , though showed a one on one is never simple .
I think the only claim that holds water is, we don’t make enough chances. Having a shot, is that really always a chance? So many pundits, seem to dwell on, people shooting without result .
Typical , attempts 28. On target 15, goals 0 what’s that all about?
Totally inefficient.

 

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View berlinpalace's Profile berlinpalace Flag berlin 05 Mar 21 2.48pm Send a Private Message to berlinpalace Add berlinpalace as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

From the few clips I've seen of the squad training, they seem to do nothing but crossing and finishing, attacking three v twos, and all the other basic attacking practices. I'd say that fits in with what we know of Roy's methods, that he coaches defensive shape, and allows off the cuff individual play going forward, which in our case equates to each individual standing still wanting it to feet before they dribble with it. I would be very interested to see if a new coach would work on attacking patterns of play instead - not guaranteed to work, but different to what we do now.

On PVA, yeah he was offside and VAR didn't need to get involved because he missed and the ball bounced back off him for a goal kick, but the replay showed he clearly was off. Which is piss poor really, as he was the widest player and could see all along the line and didn't need to go early.

He didn’t go early, the pass was way too late. If you’re coming from that far back at speed you don’t want to have to check your run as you lose any advantage.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 05 Mar 21 3.07pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by berlinpalace

He didn’t go early, the pass was way too late. If you’re coming from that far back at speed you don’t want to have to check your run as you lose any advantage.

Not sure I agree with you there. Firstly he wasn't making a run from deep. He was stood still outside the box before he made a ten yard run. Secondly, he could have curved his run to stay onside. Luka did delay the pass a bit, but it was there for PVA to do so much better than he did.

One thing I will give him is that he had no obvious square pass on once he did get in. He had to go for goal himself, as Benteke was surrounded by defenders.

 

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View Den1923's Profile Den1923 Flag 05 Mar 21 4.45pm Send a Private Message to Den1923 Add Den1923 as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Not sure I agree with you there. Firstly he wasn't making a run from deep. He was stood still outside the box before he made a ten yard run. Secondly, he could have curved his run to stay onside. Luka did delay the pass a bit, but it was there for PVA to do so much better than he did.

One thing I will give him is that he had no obvious square pass on once he did get in. He had to go for goal himself, as Benteke was surrounded by defenders.

He makes it easy for the opposition to mark him as he does not like to move around, because it makes him tired!

 

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View steven_t92's Profile steven_t92 Flag Orpington 05 Mar 21 4.48pm Send a Private Message to steven_t92 Add steven_t92 as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Reece Hannam perhaps?

I'm hoping this guy gets a chance this season, a lot more attacking than Mitchell and when he's been a bit suspect defensively in the last few games Hannam could pip him into the starting 11 next season?

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Mar 21 6.12pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by steven_t92

I'm hoping this guy gets a chance this season, a lot more attacking than Mitchell and when he's been a bit suspect defensively in the last few games Hannam could pip him into the starting 11 next season?


I think Hannam is an all round better prospect than Mitchell and I think Mitchell is an OK LB, so hope Hannam gets an early chance.

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 05 Mar 21 8.42pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

He makes it easy for the opposition to mark him as he does not like to move around, because it makes him tired!

Benteke offered the best (only) decent movement in the box I've seen from him for ages against united when he threw a couple of defenders off the scent before attacking the space to meet a low pull back.

Then he swung, missed completely and fell over, as the ball ricocheted off his standing leg.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 05 Mar 21 8.58pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Den1923

He makes it easy for the opposition to mark him as he does not like to move around, because it makes him tired!

Could argue PVA chance arose partly from benteke surrounded by defenders

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 06 Mar 21 7.49am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by Putitout

Far to much generalisation goes on regarding this subject.
We have scored more than the seven other teams . But beyond that . It’s quickly written off how precise the finishing was at Brighton. When you consider how often our style makes our games short on real chances , it would seem it’s not a part of the game that we don’t practise enough, as we do score more than some others, and as the Brighton, game showed with some style at times.

Only 1 team in the league have a better goals per chances created ratio than Palace and that is City. Our problem is creating chances not finishing them.

 

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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 06 Mar 21 8.12am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Only 1 team in the league have a better goals per chances created ratio than Palace and that is City. Our problem is creating chances not finishing them.

This is very true Eddie, although in the second half we had two good chances that we we didn’t put away.

What was Tekkers doing in the 18 yard box, no one around him and he completely mis -kicks. He had all the time in the world and we had Man Utd pressed back for periods.

 

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jeeagles Flag 06 Mar 21 8.14am

Originally posted by silvertop

Could argue PVA chance arose partly from benteke surrounded by defenders

Zaha's goal against Leicester was a result of Benteke drawing all the defenders.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 06 Mar 21 8.26am Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

PVA played a very good game and I hope he keeps this up, he did brilliantly to put himself into that position to score so as far as I'm concerned hats off.

 

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