Sick of Harry & Meghan?
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  Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 09 Mar 21 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by Cpfc1861
My Girlfriend is mix raced we often discuss whether the baby would be dark and brown eyed like it's mother or beautiful and blue eyed like it's father who is a notorious sex bomb I might add. Definately won't be ginger though that demon will be sent into a home if it is. This is why context is important. Any couple might speculate on what their baby will look like as a consequence of their respective genes. That could easily include skin tone and would not be racist. Nor would a close relative having a similar conversation necessarily be racist. It could just be a genuine interest and quite loving. So a lot depends both on the motive of the speaker and the sensitivity of the listener.
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Teddy Eagle  09 Mar 21 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is why context is important. Any couple might speculate on what their baby will look like as a consequence of their respective genes. That could easily include skin tone and would not be racist. Nor would a close relative having a similar conversation necessarily be racist. It could just be a genuine interest and quite loving. So a lot depends both on the motive of the speaker and the sensitivity of the listener. And it’s your bad luck if the most sensitive happens to have access to Oprah Winfrey.
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| silvertop Portishead 09 Mar 21 1.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is why context is important. Any couple might speculate on what their baby will look like as a consequence of their respective genes. That could easily include skin tone and would not be racist. Nor would a close relative having a similar conversation necessarily be racist. It could just be a genuine interest and quite loving. So a lot depends both on the motive of the speaker and the sensitivity of the listener. Amen. A friend who is black married a white guy but the baby appeared completely white. I asked "where are the black genes?". Was I racist to ask? She didn't think so. She laughed and said people thought she was a nanny.
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| Spiderman Horsham 09 Mar 21 2.06pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is why context is important. Any couple might speculate on what their baby will look like as a consequence of their respective genes. That could easily include skin tone and would not be racist. Nor would a close relative having a similar conversation necessarily be racist. It could just be a genuine interest and quite loving. So a lot depends both on the motive of the speaker and the sensitivity of the listener. Agreed. It would seem that the comment was made before they were even engaged, so IMO it would appear to have been nothing more than jovial banter, possibly between siblings or father and son
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| mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 09 Mar 21 2.08pm |
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A friend of my ex-Missus was pregnant and gave birth to a black baby. Her white husband left her. Not because he was racist but because his wife had been shagging around (not very carefully either). So is it racist to only shag around with other white people just in case you get pregnant and let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, because that is discriminatory?
Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry. |
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Uphill  Bedford 09 Mar 21 2.15pm |
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Feel sorry for Harry. Obviously under the thumb to a dominant women who is not the first American woman to cause havoc with the Royal Family and Britain in general - the Duchess of Windsor in 1936 wore the trousers and put the weak Duke, briefly Edward VIII, under her spell. History repeats itself even if it sometimes takes its time.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Mar 21 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by mezzer
A friend of my ex-Missus was pregnant and gave birth to a black baby. Her white husband left her. Not because he was racist but because his wife had been shagging around (not very carefully either). So is it racist to only shag around with other white people just in case you get pregnant and let the cat out of the bag, so to speak, because that is discriminatory? A bit of a shock as it pops out. Apparently we can't even mention skin colour though. We have to be colourblind when it suits too. But not at other times - it's getting hard to keep up.
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 09 Mar 21 2.27pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
This is why context is important. Any couple might speculate on what their baby will look like as a consequence of their respective genes. That could easily include skin tone and would not be racist. Nor would a close relative having a similar conversation necessarily be racist. It could just be a genuine interest and quite loving. So a lot depends both on the motive of the speaker and the sensitivity of the listener. what you're saying is of course completely right, but would Harry and Megan really go out of their way to make the context appear like it had deliberately racist motivations, if it didn't? With all the people they've met and international circles they've mixed in you'd have thought that they would be savvy enough to spot whether there was a bad intention behind someones words. I guess what I'm saying is, both sides can't be right on this - either someone is ignorant enough to make that sort of insensitive/racist comment on the RF side, or H&M are that deviant about their own interests to make it up. Pretty sad whichever way you look at it.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 09 Mar 21 2.27pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Should be an interesting conversation at chez Markle is she reads this!! But they're not black - keep up - they're not the current victim. I'm amazed there are any Asians in the army - so was Harry by the sound of it.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 09 Mar 21 2.36pm |
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If someone shortens British to Brit, or Australian to Aussie, does that mean to call someone a Brit or Aussie is racist. I’m just asking because it strikes me it’s identical to shortening pakistani to ****? What exactly has made the term **** offensive and racist? You see even this website won’t let me use the word. I find it strange that what appears to be straightforward language is considered offensive. Edited by Eaglecoops (09 Mar 2021 2.38pm)
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| Frickin Saweet South Cronx 09 Mar 21 3.10pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
If someone shortens British to Brit, or Australian to Aussie, does that mean to call someone a Brit or Aussie is racist. I’m just asking because it strikes me it’s identical to shortening pakistani to ****? What exactly has made the term **** offensive and racist? You see even this website won’t let me use the word. I find it strange that what appears to be straightforward language is considered offensive. Edited by Eaglecoops (09 Mar 2021 2.38pm) when that word is no longer used as an abbreviation but as a derogatory term then it crosses the path into offensive/racist. You can play the idiot and pretend it's not, but we used to call Asian kids that at school that as an insult, meant to be the worst thing we could call them. Not proud of admitting that, it was their 'cuss' and we all had one but that was the one for the Asians. To pretend otherwise is as stupid as we were back then for using it.
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| Stirlingsays 09 Mar 21 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
If someone shortens British to Brit, or Australian to Aussie, does that mean to call someone a Brit or Aussie is racist. I’m just asking because it strikes me it’s identical to shortening pakistani to ****? What exactly has made the term **** offensive and racist? You see even this website won’t let me use the word. I find it strange that what appears to be straightforward language is considered offensive. Edited by Eaglecoops (09 Mar 2021 2.38pm) Ah now that's a rabbit hole that requires a red pill and a recognition that unlike Alice you won't be finding a wonderland.
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