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 SW19 CPFC  Addiscombe West 03 Mar 21 9.29pm |
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Inauguration Day tomorrow then.
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| Lombardinho London 04 Mar 21 1.32pm |
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Fellow posters, a little advice, if you don't mind. I've not used italics before. Which one of these is most appropriate? a) That's not Biden b) That's not Biden or c) That's not Biden Personally I really like "a" and "b" is a corker too. My feeling is "c" isn't quite right. But that's just me.
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| Lombardinho London 04 Mar 21 1.34pm |
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Ha.
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BlueJay  UK 06 Mar 21 7.38pm |
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Not politics specific but it's bound to eventually be used to deceive and shape opinion. A look at the recent Tom Cruise Deepfakes
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| Stirlingsays 07 Mar 21 1.13am |
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An interesting analysis from the right on Biden and the wider US's approach to China.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Mar 21 7.16pm |
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Tim Pool's video on 'Blue Anon'.
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| Seagles Croydon 10 Mar 21 11.19am |
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I'm not a fan of Biden but this opinion piece is deeply misleading. The reporter has picked 3 out of many criticisms that Trump faced when being (unfairly) called a nzi. The article then compares them with 3 seemingly similar examples of what Biden has done. But the problem is they are not the same:
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| Stirlingsays 10 Mar 21 11.32am |
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Originally posted by Seagles
I'm not a fan of Biden but this opinion piece is deeply misleading. The reporter has picked 3 out of many criticisms that Trump faced when being (unfairly) called a nzi. The article then compares them with 3 seemingly similar examples of what Biden has done. But the problem is they are not the same: 1. Biden hasn't tried to undermine public trust in the free press 1. Why would he undermine public trust in media that backs him? And calling it 'free' by the way is inaccurate as they are mouthpieces for their owners. 2. A distinction with no serious difference. 3. And the evidence it is always their parents is? This policy was fine with Democrats before Trump.
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| Seagles Croydon 10 Mar 21 2.12pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
1. Why would he undermine public trust in media that backs him? And calling it 'free' by the way is inaccurate as they are mouthpieces for their owners. 2. A distinction with no serious difference. 3. And the evidence it is always their parents is? This policy was fine with Democrats before Trump. Hi stirlingsays, thanks for your reply. I'm not trying to get into a trump vs biden discussion, I just wanted to point out what a terribly written article this was. 1. That doesnt contradict my point. The article is saying the Biden and trump have treated the media the same but they havent. Trump tried to undermine a press that was critical of him, hence the comparison to nzism. Biden hasn't done that which is why no one is calling him one. I understand your point about free media, a discussion for another day when I've got a beer to hand! 2. There is a moral argument there eg the conditions for a 'just war' etc, but again, maybe another time! Since neither action is closely related to nazzism, this is a red herring in the original article. That should have been my original criticism of it but there were so many to choose from! 3. I dont know if that's true but either way it doesnt contradict my point. The article is a comparison of President Trump vs president Biden not president trump vs pre-2016 Democrats. Regarding if it is their parents or not, even if some of the children weren't with their own real parents, the point still stands. The other children were forcibly separated from their own real parents. And that is why trump was compared to Hitler and co, and biden wasn't.
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| Stirlingsays 10 Mar 21 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by Seagles
Hi stirlingsays, thanks for your reply. I'm not trying to get into a trump vs biden discussion, I just wanted to point out what a terribly written article this was. 1. That doesnt contradict my point. The article is saying the Biden and trump have treated the media the same but they havent. Trump tried to undermine a press that was critical of him, hence the comparison to nzism. Biden hasn't done that which is why no one is calling him one. I understand your point about free media, a discussion for another day when I've got a beer to hand! I explained why Biden hasn't treated the press the same and myself I think that's kind of relevant as a difference between the two. Anyone who called Trump a Nazi was always an idiot...especially considering his main donors were Jews. Originally posted by Seagles
2. There is a moral argument there eg the conditions for a 'just war' etc, but again, maybe another time! Since neither action is closely related to nazzism, this is a red herring in the original article. That should have been my original criticism of it but there were so many to choose from! Fair enough. Originally posted by Seagles
3. I dont know if that's true but either way it doesnt contradict my point. The article is a comparison of President Trump vs president Biden not president trump vs pre-2016 Democrats. Regarding if it is their parents or not, even if some of the children weren't with their own real parents, the point still stands. The other children were forcibly separated from their own real parents. And that is why trump was compared to Hitler and co, and biden wasn't. As Biden was vice president all the way through these years where the exact same policy was enacted so I view it as relevant myself. And sorry I don't think the point still stands and in cases of child abuse and sexual exploitation, which often come with Stockholm syndrome. It's a very serious issue. This separation wasn't done for jokes but because of realities on the ground that many don't wish to recognise. Also, any comparison to Hitler that anyone made with this is pure hyperbole. Hitler would have had them all shot and probably anyone of lower rank who complained about it. If Hitler had been the US president the illegal immigrant situation would have quickly and brutally resolved in a fashion none of us would have supported.
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| Seagles Croydon 10 Mar 21 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
As Biden was vice president all the way through these years where the exact same policy was enacted so I view it as relevant myself. And sorry I don't think the point still stands and in cases of child abuse and sexual exploitation, which often come with Stockholm syndrome. It's a very serious issue. This separation wasn't done for jokes but because of realities on the ground that many don't wish to recognise. Also, any comparison to Hitler that anyone made with this is pure hyperbole. Hitler would have had them all shot and probably anyone of lower rank who complained about it. If Hitler had been the US president the illegal immigrant situation would have quickly and brutally resolved in a fashion none of us would have supported. It's a bit useless complaining about the nazi comparisons as that is literally what the article is about. I didn't know if what you said previously about the democrats immigration policy was true or not and since you have brought it up again I looked into it - it isn't. I am sure there were some families separated some times, but it was the trump administration that made it policy to separate children from their families. Trump's attorney general Jeff sessions said, "I have put in place a “zero tolerance” policy for illegal entry on our Southwest border. If you cross this border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It’s that simple... If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you" [Link] This is completely different from the previous administrataions policy when family detention centres were purpose built to avoid it, [Link] and indeed the current one's as acknowledged in the article being discussed So back to my original point which is that the author of the article is deliberatly misleading the readers when he attempts to equate the two.
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| matthau South Croydon 10 Mar 21 10.32pm |
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Originally posted by Lombardinho
Fellow posters, a little advice, if you don't mind. I've not used italics before. Which one of these is most appropriate? a) That's not Biden b) That's not Biden or c) That's not Biden Personally I really like "a" and "b" is a corker too. My feeling is "c" isn't quite right. But that's just me.
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