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Stirlingsays 30 Mar 21 1.22pm
I can't see how this could be a fair trial. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

30 Mar 21 1.22pm

I can't see how this could be a fair trial.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 30 Mar 21 1.26pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I can't see how this could be a fair trial. Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm) One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 30 Mar 21 1.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I can't see how this could be a fair trial.

Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm)

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Stirlingsays 30 Mar 21 1.35pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about. Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm) Yep, this case will be OJ like in how it is received. Whatever the verdict it will crystalise a lot of minds. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

30 Mar 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Certainly not in the media or should I say "the court of public opinion" which seems to be the only court that protestors care about.

Edited by Badger11 (30 Mar 2021 1.27pm)

Yep, this case will be OJ like in how it is received.

Whatever the verdict it will crystalise a lot of minds.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Badger11 Beckenham 31 Mar 21 7.54am
Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) One more point
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Beckenham 31 Mar 21 7.54am

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

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I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

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Spiderman Horsham 31 Mar 21 7.58am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) Before the �it�s the Mail� comments start [Link]
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Horsham 31 Mar 21 7.58am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

Before the �it�s the Mail� comments start

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.14am
When you hear the recent KFC advert on the radio and that girl (young woman) talk on the advert, you can understand a bit more about why some will never get a chance. The way she says ��Big deal. Online. Apply.�� Dear me. I bet girls practice and want to copy this, just like the rap culture which gets carried into adulthood long term. Being accepted in your teenage social circle does not mean accepted professionally in adulthood, but it means everything to be in a group as a teenager. But it�s here to stay and stay separated from professional working environments, except when required to advertise it or make some music or urban tv. COYP
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Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.14am

When you hear the recent KFC advert on the radio and that girl (young woman) talk on the advert, you can understand a bit more about why some will never get a chance. The way she says ��Big deal. Online. Apply.�� Dear me.

I bet girls practice and want to copy this, just like the rap culture which gets carried into adulthood long term. Being accepted in your teenage social circle does not mean accepted professionally in adulthood, but it means everything to be in a group as a teenager. But it�s here to stay and stay separated from professional working environments, except when required to advertise it or make some music or urban tv.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 31 Mar 21 9.18am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) To be fair no one ever convinced me either. I hated school and couldn�t wait to get out. One difference in the Seventies was that further education was relatively uncommon so we weren�t in competition for jobs with people with degrees in Leisure Studies or Sports Management.
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Teddy Eagle

31 Mar 21 9.18am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

To be fair no one ever convinced me either. I hated school and couldn�t wait to get out.
One difference in the Seventies was that further education was relatively uncommon so we weren�t in competition for jobs with people with degrees in Leisure Studies or Sports Management.

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Mar 21 9.22am
Originally posted by Badger11 Racist Britain, or maybe not. [Link] I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation. As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed. For me the real issue is not black people being denied jobs or promotion but the educational failure of black boys especially. This is the issue that needs to be tackled not virtue signally taking a knee. The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool". Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am) David Lammy being a good example. Born in Tottenham, presumably not being whisked off to private school and out of the State system, and progressing to Harvard and being a qualified barrister from what I gather. A shining example of what can be achieved. It's a shame that negativity outweighs the positivity, but that is a human characteristic across millions, regardless of colour. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 31 Mar 21 9.22am

Originally posted by Badger11

Racist Britain, or maybe not.

[Link]

I am not surprised that this inquiry decided that Britain is not institutionally racist. It did find there is racism e.g. social media and that there is deprivation.

As many of us have argued though the opportunities are there if somebody is prepared to work hard and get the qualifications they will succeed.

The celebs need to convince black boys that "school is cool".

Edited by Badger11 (31 Mar 2021 7.55am)

David Lammy being a good example. Born in Tottenham, presumably not being whisked off to private school and out of the State system, and progressing to Harvard and being a qualified barrister from what I gather. A shining example of what can be achieved. It's a shame that negativity outweighs the positivity, but that is a human characteristic across millions, regardless of colour.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.39am
Originally posted by mezzer David Lammy being a good example. Born in Tottenham, presumably not being whisked off to private school and out of the State system, and progressing to Harvard and being a qualified barrister from what I gather. A shining example of what can be achieved. It's a shame that negativity outweighs the positivity, but that is a human characteristic across millions, regardless of colour. I always say this. It matters how you sound. In my experience and opinion it matters more than visually. Edited by Rudi Hedman (31 Mar 2021 9.44am) COYP
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Caterham 31 Mar 21 9.39am

Originally posted by mezzer

I always say this. It matters how you sound. In my experience and opinion it matters more than visually.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (31 Mar 2021 9.44am)

COYP

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cryrst The garden of England 31 Mar 21 10.20am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman When you hear the recent KFC advert on the radio and that girl (young woman) talk on the advert, you can understand a bit more about why some will never get a chance. The way she says ��Big deal. Online. Apply.�� Dear me. I bet girls practice and want to copy this, just like the rap culture which gets carried into adulthood long term. Being accepted in your teenage social circle does not mean accepted professionally in adulthood, but it means everything to be in a group as a teenager. But it�s here to stay and stay separated from professional working environments, except when required to advertise it or make some music or urban tv. I worked with a west Indian guy and his thick accent was so very obviously genuine. After a while and actually asking what he just said a few times I got to understand all of what he was saying. He was never offended by me asking BTW and appreciated me not being a nodding dog. My point is its so easy to spot a genuine accent from a fake one done for image. These kids need to be themselves as the future will chew them up and spit them out.
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cryrst

The garden of England 31 Mar 21 10.20am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I worked with a west Indian guy and his thick accent was so very obviously genuine. After a while and actually asking what he just said a few times I got to understand all of what he was saying. He was never offended by me asking BTW and appreciated me not being a nodding dog. My point is its so easy to spot a genuine accent from a fake one done for image. These kids need to be themselves as the future will chew them up and spit them out.

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Badger11 Beckenham 11 Apr 21 2.23pm
And this is why the police are sometimes too quick on the draw, easy for people to say why didn't the police wait, didn't have to shoot him...... [Link] Edited by Badger11 (11 Apr 2021 2.23pm) One more point
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Beckenham 11 Apr 21 2.23pm

And this is why the police are sometimes too quick on the draw, easy for people to say why didn't the police wait, didn't have to shoot him......

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