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The Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities have issued a report that has concluded that the UK is not yet a "post-racial country" - but its success in removing race-based disparity in education and, to a lesser extent, the economy, "should be regarded as a model for other white-majority countries". In his foreword to the report chairman Tony Sewell, an education consultant and ex-charity boss, said while the "impediments and disparities do exist", it continued, they were "varied and ironically very few of them are directly to do with racism".
Cause for celebration you would think. But no, Sit Keir Starmer, leader of what passes as the labour Party these days is “disappointed” by the report – presumably he hoped that rampant racism would be found.
The GMB union’s National Officer, Rehana Azam, went further saying it "feels like a deeply cynical report". She said it was "completely irresponsible and immoral" – I wonder what her criteria for morality is?
Then, the ‘impartial’ BBC headlines “Race report risks deepening distrust and division” – I would suggest that it is the BBC and the other critics of the report that are causing division.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 31 Mar 21 8.02pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities have issued a report that has concluded that the UK is not yet a "post-racial country" - but its success in removing race-based disparity in education and, to a lesser extent, the economy, "should be regarded as a model for other white-majority countries". In his foreword to the report chairman Tony Sewell, an education consultant and ex-charity boss, said while the "impediments and disparities do exist", it continued, they were "varied and ironically very few of them are directly to do with racism".
Cause for celebration you would think. But no, Sit Keir Starmer, leader of what passes as the labour Party these days is “disappointed” by the report – presumably he hoped that rampant racism would be found.
The GMB union’s National Officer, Rehana Azam, went further saying it "feels like a deeply cynical report". She said it was "completely irresponsible and immoral" – I wonder what her criteria for morality is?
Then, the ‘impartial’ BBC headlines “Race report risks deepening distrust and division” – I would suggest that it is the BBC and the other critics of the report that are causing division.

Starmer wanted more parts to the report. Surely that means more points of failure. Maybe thats what he wanted.

 

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jeeagles Flag 31 Mar 21 9.37pm

Originally posted by cryrst
Starmer wanted more parts to the report. Surely that means more points of failure. Maybe thats what he wanted.

After Corbyn's comments that the EHRC report was exaggerated, they don't really want to be kicking this hornet's nest.

Back to the interesting points.

- wealth is more of an issue than race.
- proper career guidance is needed for those from poorer backgrounds (but you always have to question the life choices of careers advisors)
- BAME shouldn't be used because not all ethnicities face the same challenges.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 31 Mar 21 9.55pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

The Commission on Race and Ethnic Disparities have issued a report that has concluded that the UK is not yet a "post-racial country" - but its success in removing race-based disparity in education and, to a lesser extent, the economy, "should be regarded as a model for other white-majority countries". In his foreword to the report chairman Tony Sewell, an education consultant and ex-charity boss, said while the "impediments and disparities do exist", it continued, they were "varied and ironically very few of them are directly to do with racism".
Cause for celebration you would think. But no, Sit Keir Starmer, leader of what passes as the labour Party these days is “disappointed” by the report – presumably he hoped that rampant racism would be found.
The GMB union’s National Officer, Rehana Azam, went further saying it "feels like a deeply cynical report". She said it was "completely irresponsible and immoral" – I wonder what her criteria for morality is?
Then, the ‘impartial’ BBC headlines “Race report risks deepening distrust and division” – I would suggest that it is the BBC and the other critics of the report that are causing division.

The BBC have probably got the ar5eache because their right-on luvvies can no longer justify not employing white people (who may be the best person for the job), so that they can do their box-ticking diversity cobblers.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 01 Apr 21 3.37am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

This is spot on.

Race division and commenting on race has become a massive industry with many people making very good living from being divisive.

The BBC does not care as long as they continue to have heads in the tax trough promoting an agenda which is contrary to the Charter.

The high level view of the report seems to be that the UK is not systemically racist .

It rightly says racist people exist, as in ,I would suggest , every country in the world.

The report will be rejected by everyone promoting a systemic racism agenda, as are all reports where one side doesn't get what they want. The Sturgeon SNP rejection of the Salmond inquiry same, the Corbynista rejection of the anti semitism report the same etc etc.

The spin from the divisive race identity politics industry will be if you accept the report you are therefore racist.

I agree BAME is term that should be discontinued.

It is a woke way of saying non white. Does anyone really think that people Chinese, West Indian, African, Indian and pakistani heritage have a one size fits all set of issues.

The very idea of seeking to employ people based on race is by definition a racist practice.

At least the report may facilitate more debate


Originally posted by martin2412

The BBC have probably got the ar5eache because their right-on luvvies can no longer justify not employing white people (who may be the best person for the job), so that they can do their box-ticking diversity cobblers.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 01 Apr 21 6.43am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

While we have racist ethnic minorities.
Burning the Union jack!!!
[Link]

AS for the head teacher, I'm shocked

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 01 Apr 21 7.55am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

This is spot on.

Race division and commenting on race has become a massive industry with many people making very good living from being divisive.

The BBC does not care as long as they continue to have heads in the tax trough promoting an agenda which is contrary to the Charter.

The high level view of the report seems to be that the UK is not systemically racist .

It rightly says racist people exist, as in ,I would suggest , every country in the world.

The report will be rejected by everyone promoting a systemic racism agenda, as are all reports where one side doesn't get what they want. The Sturgeon SNP rejection of the Salmond inquiry same, the Corbynista rejection of the anti semitism report the same etc etc.

The spin from the divisive race identity politics industry will be if you accept the report you are therefore racist.

I agree BAME is term that should be discontinued.

It is a woke way of saying non white. Does anyone really think that people Chinese, West Indian, African, Indian and pakistani heritage have a one size fits all set of issues.

The very idea of seeking to employ people based on race is by definition a racist practice.

At least the report may facilitate more debate


Black people need to stop blaming the rest of society for the educational failures of young black men. When will someone from that community be brave enough to start to question why this happens.

 


One more point

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 01 Apr 21 8.46am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

While we have racist ethnic minorities.
Burning the Union jack!!!
[Link]

AS for the head teacher, I'm shocked


If that is the Pimlico school I think it is then it has a decades long reputation for Left-Wing c***ishness. First came across when a girl I went to primary school with went there, instead of the local comprehensive, due to it having a special admissions policy for children with musical talent. And given her mum was a full leftie-labour councillor leading the charge for the rest of us to be dumped in local comps, the perfect example of the kind of hypocrisy that makes me loath the Left with the passion I do.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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There is now data asking questions such as why do Indian kids do so much better at school than pakistani kids and why do black kids of African origin do so much better at school than kids of West Indian heritage.

Uncomfortable for the systemic race baiters

Originally posted by Badger11

Black people need to stop blaming the rest of society for the educational failures of young black men. When will someone from that community be brave enough to start to question why this happens.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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What I found funny was the idea that racism plays a part in Caribbean kids being expelled from school more than anyone else.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What I found funny was the idea that racism plays a part in Caribbean kids being expelled from school more than anyone else.

oh yes its all about skin colour. Nothing to do with the spectacular levels of single-mother households.

And the fact that other kids (successful at school) have darker skin ? And those other kids often hear no English at home. But it is just a statistical accident that seems to happen again and again.

Boys from Chinese or Indian households seem to do quite well. And what proportion of the stabbing epidemic involved boys from these backgrounds ?

1% of all the stabbings ? 0.001 % ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Apr 2021 1.23pm)

 


the 'Net-We-had' at the Etihad....again

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