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Tom-the-eagle  Croydon 23 Apr 21 10.47am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. Better for who? the pakistani rapists. The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect. You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to.
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 the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.53am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 10.57am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. But the ones so far prosecuted and threatened with deportation (although still walking the streets of Rochdale) were/are 99% of pakistani descent, why are you so afraid of saying so??
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 Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.06am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
So it would be better to include Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Malay etc. etc. I'm not sure they would agree. Better only that it is very much less specific, but still unnecessary. Those you mention are pretty unlikely to feel upset, given the accusation history.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 11.10am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Better for who? the pakistani rapists. The fact that thousands of school girls were gang raped for over a decade in many different towns across the country means the police and authorities involved have no respect. You should be more concerned about these poor girls who have undergone life changing incidents than what the rapists are referred to. Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Apr 21 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern. And what are the outcomes? That pakistani men stop gang raping children, right?
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 21 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you being deliberately obtuse, or do you really not understand that the ONLY thing that matters is the outcomes and whether descriptive words help, or hinder, them? That is the ONLY concern. Surely the main concern is that for years the authorities turned a blind eye to the systematic rape of vulnerable young WHITE girls for the sake of racial harmony.
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| dannyboy1978 23 Apr 21 12.10pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you read the whole piece, in the context of her remarks, what she says has a great deal of truth and common sense in it. Racism has only been mentioned by you. I haven't accused anyone of racism. I have only suggested that not simply referring to criminals as criminals is unwise as it doesn't help solve the problem. If you feel victimised by being described as a racist then look elsewhere. I haven't done it. Your dancing on a pin head mate. If Tommy Robinson calls them pakistani you shout racist but you then go on to say " Your a hypocrite Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.19pm)
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| dannyboy1978 23 Apr 21 12.13pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Some of these men probably not. They need to be found and then dealt with in a way that removes any possibility of re-offending. That is a huge and very expensive challenge. Some can though, working through and with the leaders of their communities. More importantly it's the coming generations who need to be steered off that track. This isn't pakistan. There are many contrary influences here which need to be harnessed to change mindsets. Speak to a British educated younger Muslim and they are as horrified at the concept of honour killings as the rest of us. They are the future and it's their attitudes that need to be maximised. Ostracising whole communities isn't wise, which is the primary point I am trying to make. So we can have different communities but we cant say pakistani communities. Edited by dannyboy1978 (23 Apr 2021 12.20pm)
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Teddy Eagle  23 Apr 21 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Saying they are "of Asian descent" would be a lot better than using "pakistani", which is what is actually done. No-one is "covering up the crimes"! It's that kind of inference which is so ridiculous. Prosecutions have, and are, happening. If the Police, and other involved agencies, believe publicity will help them then no doubt they will seek it. If they don't and prefer they do their work quietly then best we respect that. Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well.
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| Spiderman Horsham 23 Apr 21 2.34pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Saying they are of “Asian descent” wouldn’t be much use if the victims were as well. Poorly written report, calling the gang members pakistani! Tut tut.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 23 Apr 21 3.21pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 10.54am) The prosecutions have been happening for some time. Maybe under the radar at first, but they were there. Read what I wrote. I said that there were undertones of "****-bashing". Not that there is any. Just the aroma. The sense that it is still present in some minds. Maybe your nose isn't as sensitive as mine!
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