As I had absolutely nothing to do with any kind of "mass immigration" I was neither for, or against it.

Immigration has been a consistent part of our collective experience throughout my lifetime.

Things happen. An ageing population, falling birth rates, a history of Empire and promises made. These things have intensified demand and provided willing people to meet it. The Eastern European influx changed the dynamics.

People like me created nothing. The situation created the need.

That, with the benefit of hindsight it ought to have been managed better is something I can agree with, as I guess do most people. It wasn't and we are now where we are.

In a previous response I asked for practical, legal solutions. What you offer is just ridiculous rhetoric which is no better than the stupidity routinely served up by Yaxley-Lennon.

It might make you feel better to expel the hot air but it doesn't move us any closer at all to finding a way forward. As such it's worse than a waste of time. It delays finding things that can actually contribute. Legally and practically.

Now maybe we ought to get back on thread. How's Mr Yaxley-Lennon's latest trial going?

There is no impending disaster! There is a challenge to overcome, which we will rise to and eventually succeed in handling.

Sitting at keyboards moaning won't achieve anything at all. Playing a blame game is pointless. Anyone can do that and point fingers at all kinds of things they believe have been political mistakes. Anyone for Brexit? We need to move on and accept what is and also what can practically, legally and morally be done about it.

We need to think positively and find ways to turn what looks to you like a disaster into an opportunity.

Optimism will always triumph over pessimism, given the right environment.

I don't have a "type"! My opinions are my own.

There is no "disaster", other than in the minds of those who want there to be one. There are problems. That's nothing new. There have always been problems and always will be. They just vary with the generations. Many of our father's generation thought disaster was about to befall them, with us being subjugated by Nazi Germany, whilst others welcomed the prospect. Most though pulled up their sleeves and worked collectively to resist and, with the help of friends, prevailed.

That's what we need to do now. Not just complain and propose unworkable solutions. If "stopping the flow" was a realistic proposition it would have been done years ago. We are controlling what we can. Nor can we just deport people at will. There are international conventions to respect alongside the fact that many of those you wish to deport are now legally as British as you or me, without any other place to go. These problems are ours to deal with.

There is no moral or intellectual superiority involved. Just realism. People can "want" all they wish but if what they "want" is unrealistic they need to rethink what is actually possible and then join in the efforts to ensure it happens quickly.

Only in this way can the protection for all these young women you claim to be your motivation actually be accomplished.

Bashing a keyboard does nothing at all to help anyone.

The formerly impending disaster has already happened. We are living in it.

You are someone who tries to spin details and deny responsibility while the whole mass immigration scandal is still happening year on year.
You want to overlook the actual reason why thousands of British girls have been raped and abused. .

I do understand that and, of course, we don't actually know what numbers are in each category. Some will just hold ILR, which would be a lot easier. However, those that have obtained citizenship could then revoke any previous one if a possibility of deportation appeared on the horizon for them.

The point I am making is it isn't such a simple matter as some seem to think.

I don't have a "type"! My opinions are my own.

There is no "disaster", other than in the minds of those who want there to be one. There are problems. That's nothing new. There have always been problems and always will be. They just vary with the generations. Many of our father's generation thought disaster was about to befall them, with us being subjugated by Nazi Germany, whilst others welcomed the prospect. Most though pulled up their sleeves and worked collectively to resist and, with the help of friends, prevailed.

That's what we need to do now. Not just complain and propose unworkable solutions. If "stopping the flow" was a realistic proposition it would have been done years ago. We are controlling what we can. Nor can we just deport people at will. There are international conventions to respect alongside the fact that many of those you wish to deport are now legally as British as you or me, without any other place to go. These problems are ours to deal with.

There is no moral or intellectual superiority involved. Just realism. People can "want" all they wish but if what they "want" is unrealistic they need to rethink what is actually possible and then join in the efforts to ensure it happens quickly.

Only in this way can the protection for all these young women you claim to be your motivation actually be accomplished.

Bashing a keyboard does nothing at all to help anyone.