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 Badger11  Beckenham 23 Apr 21 8.26am |
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Apparently the government can;t count which is nit surprising considering they underestimated the number of EU nationals living in the UK by 1mm. These numbers matter how else do we know how we are are doing.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 23 Apr 21 10.56am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Ever tried the Metro B? More than 440 financial firms have shifted thousands of jobs and £1 trillion of assets out of the UK and into the EU because of Brexit, with more pain still to come. Still maybe, but I actually doubt it, the EU will buy more of our crustaceans.......... I never experienced as a foreign worker in Germany, any such 'difficulties' at all, quite the reverse. You simply have to obey the law as you would anywhere. The UK wanted it that way, and that's what it got.
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cryrst  The garden of England 23 Apr 21 11.44am |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
I think that's 2-1 then
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 23 Apr 21 11.53am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
A minor victory in the shellfish dispute. Most of the problems with exporting are down to the EU playing games. Hopefully they will realise that this damages them as much as us silly to get into a trade war when these issues are easily resolved. Meanwhile expats in the EU are finding life being made very difficult for them. Imagine the outcry in this country if we had done the same to their expats. Edited by Badger11 (18 Apr 2021 9.24am) not true, I am an expat and no such thing is happening, unless they are flying under the radar ie re tax Edited by the silurian (23 Apr 2021 11.55am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Apr 21 4.57pm |
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Brexit strikes 'and once again a heart is broke'. Arlene bites the dust, her country voted against brexit, now they see how they were just a sacrificial pawn.
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| Spiderman Horsham 28 Apr 21 6.02pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Brexit strikes 'and once again a heart is broke'. Arlene bites the dust, her country voted against brexit, now they see how they were just a sacrificial pawn.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 28 Apr 21 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
not true, I am an expat and no such thing is happening, unless they are flying under the radar ie re tax Well it varies by country but you may have a point. According to this lots of Brits have not taken out residency as they are still claiming benefits from the UK. If true I have no sympathy.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Apr 21 7.21pm |
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Interesting article about the hospitality sector. Lots of complaints from employers about lack of EU staff. Anyway EU staff numbers down and UK numbers up, good. The Mail is negative but I think this is a good thing. Once we are out of lock down and government support ends people will need jobs so I guess this is one area for them to look to.
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| Matov 29 Apr 21 7.27pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Interesting article about the hospitality sector. Lots of complaints from employers about lack of EU staff. Anyway EU staff numbers down and UK numbers up, good. The Mail is negative but I think this is a good thing. Once we are out of lock down and government support ends people will need jobs so I guess this is one area for them to look to. I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on. Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 29 Apr 21 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on. Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth. Economically we are still in a false position as we are not out of lock down fully and the government is still shaking the money tree and unemployment will probably still go up. In the next 3 months I think things will change. A new batch of school leavers will be in the market for jobs and people who are unemployed may decide to settle for a job that is not their first choice. We should only be recruiting unskilled staff from in or out of the EU once unemployment is down to low levels. I find it encouraging that the number of Brits in the hospitality sector is going up as it should do. The idea that British people can't or won't do those roles is nonsense.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Apr 21 9.04pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I suspect the UK will, within 24 months, open up the UK jobs market to EU citizens. Freedom of movement was actually a big success for the UK as a whole with EU citizens creating a tax surplus. It is non-EU migration that causes ALL of our social problems. You never read about Polish grooming gangs or hordes of Germans dominating the heroin trade and so on. Yes, something had to be done about freedom of movement but it was far more nuanced than many on the Right are willing to concede and in many ways, if you accept the notion that the UK by dint of its open economy, needs workers, we were far better off getting them from Europe than the Commonwealth.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 29 Apr 21 9.14pm |
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By the way, I think that the UK will be in the sh@te when it comes to the job market. Nothing to do with Brexit, but the effect Covid has had on how we work. I have friends who work at Canary Wharf who have not been to their office now for over a year. If big companies now realise that staff can be employed anywhere then they will soon stop paying high London wages and office rents. Expect to see many of these jobs outsourced, in the same way things like call centres were only these will be the big earners. Trust me, In the next ten years, London, the driving force of our economy, may be a different place.
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