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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 May 21 8.33am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Something really odd going on with this. No real specific details out there which has made me wonder if there are wheels within wheels occurring.

The Norwegians take a lot more fish out of our waters than we take out of theirs. Or rather did. That is the point. This hits Norway worse than us. Yes, some specific negatives for a particular segment of our fishing industry but overall, far more damaging to the Norwegians.

If anybody can contradict me on this, with links, genuinely all ears because even from trawling (bad pun intended) some Norwegian sites with the help of Google Translate, I am still hitting a brick wall.

Something very fishy (again, horrendous pun intended) going on here.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 04 May 21 9.38am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Something really odd going on with this. No real specific details out there which has made me wonder if there are wheels within wheels occurring.

The Norwegians take a lot more fish out of our waters than we take out of theirs. Or rather did. That is the point. This hits Norway worse than us. Yes, some specific negatives for a particular segment of our fishing industry but overall, far more damaging to the Norwegians.

If anybody can contradict me on this, with links, genuinely all ears because even from trawling (bad pun intended) some Norwegian sites with the help of Google Translate, I am still hitting a brick wall.

Something very fishy (again, horrendous pun intended) going on here.

Same here Matov.

Plenty of stories about the UK Norway deal being stalled but I can find nothing about Norway EU talks are they stalled as well in which case Brexit is irrelevant or has the EU been able to do a deal on its own.

As for Norway all I could find was that the fish they catch in our waters has a season which has ended for this year which is why they are in no hurry to complete negotiations.

All rather annoying I wish some journalist would do a proper report.

 


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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 May 21 10.03am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11


Plenty of stories about the UK Norway deal being stalled but I can find nothing about Norway EU talks are they stalled as well in which case Brexit is irrelevant or has the EU been able to do a deal on its own.

My understanding, and as always perfectly happy and keen to be corrected, is that the previous arrangements between the EU and Norway for fishing made a lot of allowing the Norwegian's access to British fishing waters.

Now that the UK is no longer in the EU, the EU are still trying to retain exactly the same access to Norwegian waters without having the British fishing waters to play as an ace card (I cannot imagine the Norwegian's wanting to fish much in anybody's else's fishing territory).

There was a quote in this article that caught my eye... [Link]

As negotiators met Friday morning, an EU official said the bloc won’t be leaving the negotiating table but feared the U.K. might, setting its own catch limits unilaterally. This would upset the delicate balance of fish stocks in the North Sea, especially mackerel.

“We don’t see a lot of impossible issues to resolve — we think there can be practical solutions,” the official said. “What makes the U.K. often stick to its guns is a matter of principle, it’s political. What we feel is that we prefer to have an agreement, because otherwise it would set a very bad precedent for the very sensitive negotiations on fishing opportunities that we face.”

Blaming the UK for sticking to its guns on matters of principal? Meaning it is not doing what the EU wants it to do?

Not even sure why an EU official would be commenting on this, let alone being quoted.

Something amiss with this entire debacle.


Edited by Matov (04 May 2021 10.04am)

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 06 May 21 11.17am Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

What is it with the French? Always angry about something with no justification. And now they threaten to cut off power to Jersey if they don't have their way to fish without proper licences.

The funniest comment so far came from a Government source:
"At least when the Germans invaded they kept the lights on"

 


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jeeagles Flag 06 May 21 11.51am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

What is it with the French? Always angry about something with no justification. And now they threaten to cut off power to Jersey if they don't have their way to fish without proper licences.

The funniest comment so far came from a Government source:
"At least when the Germans invaded they kept the lights on"

They've got an oil power station on the island that they will just power up.

Problem solved.

The French haven't been fishing with proper licences anyway and have spend the past few months dredging and taking way over their quota.

It's all a storm in a tea cup. They love to go on strike and protest. They will surrender soon.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 May 21 11.56am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

France is literally the most petty bureaucratic country in the world and now complaining about licences. A licence is required to breathe in France.
It was precisely this kind of behaviour that caused Brexit. France wants everything for free. Behind the scenes the Germans have had enough of them, yet the government needs them for their EU project. The German people can't stand the French. The French can't stand the Germans. The French literally just want the subsidies. The most lazy corrupt country in Europe.
They seem to spend more time and effort protesting and making banners than they do working.

 


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View AuntyAnne70's Profile AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 06 May 21 12.13pm Send a Private Message to AuntyAnne70 Add AuntyAnne70 as a friend

All so unnecessary and completely avoidable, but hey yeah lets blame the French!


 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 May 21 12.19pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

All so unnecessary and completely avoidable, but hey yeah lets blame the French!


Go for a drive in France and see if you care about the French needing a licence afterwards.

 


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View kevlee's Profile kevlee Flag born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 06 May 21 12.27pm Send a Private Message to kevlee Add kevlee as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

France is literally the most petty bureaucratic country in the world and now complaining about licences. A licence is required to breathe in France.
It was precisely this kind of behaviour that caused Brexit. France wants everything for free. Behind the scenes the Germans have had enough of them, yet the government needs them for their EU project. The German people can't stand the French. The French can't stand the Germans. The French literally just want the subsidies. The most lazy corrupt country in Europe.
They seem to spend more time and effort protesting and making banners than they do working.

Disagree - surely the Italians followed by the Greeks

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 May 21 1.57pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by kevlee

Disagree - surely the Italians followed by the Greeks

President Sarkozy may tell you otherwise for a start.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 06 May 21 2.03pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Au revoir.....for now.

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