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View Gary St.Andrews's Profile Gary St.Andrews Flag Kenley 19 May 21 9.32am Send a Private Message to Gary St.Andrews Add Gary St.Andrews as a friend

Well done Roy, you did what no other manager has done before and extended our stay in the Premiership without too much fuss being made, unlike Tony Pulis and Fat Sam who were hell bent on turning us into another bloody uncertain circus….

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 19 May 21 9.59am Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

There’s no doubt that Hodgson is a highly intelligent individual and accomplished coach
Almost an English version of Arsene Wenger.
It is possible his career could have hit greater heights if he had one of those elements that the true elite managers have - boldness.
It could be argued that his conservatism meant that he was always better suited to the likes of WBA , Fulham and ourselves rather than a Man Utd, City or Liverpool.
He produces sound teams rather than sides that will live long in the memory. Unlikely to struggle and unlikely to set the pulse racing.
And that is enough for many.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 19 May 21 10.09am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

I started this season in the 'this is the last season for RH' Camp. He's done a marvellous job for us, but as players were ageing and performances declining, I wanted a change simply to introduce some future planning. The reasoning was that the previous season had seen safety largely brought on by Ayews form alone. That wasn't sustainable.
Over the course of this season, which we saw Eze join, and a host of youngsters added to the academy. I saw hints that RH was attempting to improve, only for it to backfire as the squad simply was not up to it. He then reverted to safety first and the need to help out the defence to get that solidity back. Thats when the 'dire, dull performances' came.
He has been then cause if this run, but out of necessity - and was absolutely the correct thing to do in this situation.
With the realisation that many of our Players were out of contract, I ended the season wanting him to stay and oversee one more Window, with the idea that he is the perfect man for next seasons job. It's a big enough job to make the necessary squad changes (with this shorter preseason due to the euros). To throw a new manager and the new ideas that comes with it into the mix into this, will only make this task harder.

So with that it is with a heavy heart that I read that he is leaving.

The manner in which he has left 'Walking away from football', not retiring, never say never about another football job, does make me think that he would have stayed had he been offered the chance.

So Farewell Roy, you have dealt with all criticism and judgement with incredible dignity and have always been a proud figurehead of our club.
I wish you all the best for whatever the future has for you.

Whoever comes in next has a massive pair of Hush puppies to fill.

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 19 May 21 10.13am Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by Gary St.Andrews

Get ready for a very bumpy ride from now on. Anyone thinking Lampard will be a good fit will find out now should he get the post.

I have my doubts about him, he had the tools at Chelsea but didn’t know how to use them!

I'm not sure about Lampard. It can be the case that some managers cope better when they don't have lots of resources and options. It allows for a clearer focus.

At Chelsea Lampard was expected to deliver trophies and a champions league place and was under pressure to learn and perform very quickly.

At Palace he would have some leeway in terms of expectation and perhaps a few less egos to deal with.

 

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View esox lucius's Profile esox lucius Flag Deal 19 May 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to esox lucius Add esox lucius as a friend

Originally posted by Pete53

I'm not sure about Lampard. It can be the case that some managers cope better when they don't have lots of resources and options. It allows for a clearer focus.

At Chelsea Lampard was expected to deliver trophies and a champions league place and was under pressure to learn and perform very quickly.

At Palace he would have some leeway in terms of expectation and perhaps a few less egos to deal with.

If he just gets a top half finish, that’s an improvement I’d be happy with.

 

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jeeagles Flag 19 May 21 10.20am

Originally posted by westquay

So as I have been given a YELLOW i think only correct that I rephrase my post and show some respect to jjeagles unlike his disrespect to a principled man with the utmost integrity...I mean Sir Roy and not myself...
I must apologise for using the word Moron and my reasons for this are that I could not find a more apt word to describe you..
Looking back on Sir Roys career and the amazing respect he has from other managers and the football world as a whole it came to me that your erudite post was as useful as a fart in a space suit..
My hopes for you as you look back on your future career flipping burgers are that you could have only hoped to have and dreamed to have been as successful as Roy....
So as I wander off into the sunset with my two brightly coloured cards (inevitable) I salute your lack of respect and decency with my middle finger raised on one hand and two fingers raised on the other... Prick

A principled man wouldn't have gone to South Africa in the middle of apartheid.

There's been a lot of cult like praise written on here over Hodgson in the last few years. Largely fuelled by the excellent PR work undertaken by Parish. Always remember Parish is a PR guru and can really turn on the mass charm offensive when he needs to. My views are cynical, and in this case direct, but I'd still wager the timing of the announcement on the last Monday before the final home game of the season has been planned for months and month.

The wording of post was in response to months and months of passive abusive comments by one of supporters who's never provided a coherent argument as to why he deserves to retain his highly paid and highly coveted job. Honestly, what did you expect me to do? Roll over and accept defeat like Roy and Dyke following the 2014 world cup draw?

Whilst my post was crass, particular posters deserved that dig. Their reaction to it showed tactical naivety only matched by Roy. If many are wound up that easily, I expect they have never played any sport. Come on guys, think things through. It was like taking candy from a cry-baby. They asked for it.

You've made several assumptions about me, which are wildly inaccurate, and I take that to be more of a reflection on you than me. I'm not shocked, surprised or offended by the responses - it's probably worth considered what a post will achieve before going in all guns blazing.

However, I admire your passion and sticking directly to what you believe in and I think your forthright response was warranted. Seems like many on HoL are more demanding of fellow posters than they are of the management. The poster I was trying to wind up, is a troll who seems to have a fetish for Priti Petal at the moment. He'd never come out that directly. Unfortunately, he'll never learn that if you go round making petty digs at people (but never enough to earn a yellow), they are going to get you back.

As for Roy, he did very well in his two season in charge and then holding the fort until subtle replacements have become available. I hope he enjoys his retirement.

Parish has also done extremely well to show patients and resist calls from the fans to be removed to the detriment of his own popularity. After FdB, Roy was all we could get in. After that season we were always more than likely to stay up (some of the relegated sides where pants). Parish's patients has frustrated whilst he has been willing to let us limp over the finish line, avoiding a payout and showing he's not a trigger happy chairman, and held on until a number of excellent alternative candidates are on the market. He's a cold, calculating man, you can tell how he's become a self made millionaire and excellent chairman.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 May 21 10.33am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

A principled man wouldn't have gone to South Africa in the middle of apartheid.

A bit harsh that was 1973, many sports still had contact with South Africa and it wasn't until the African Boycott of the Olympic games in 1976 that real attention to the sporting boycott was paid.

Back in 1973 Roy was a PE teacher in hindsight I am sure he would say it was a mistake.

 


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jeeagles Flag 19 May 21 10.56am

Originally posted by Badger11

A bit harsh that was 1973, many sports still had contact with South Africa and it wasn't until the African Boycott of the Olympic games in 1976 that real attention to the sporting boycott was paid.

Back in 1973 Roy was a PE teacher in hindsight I am sure he would say it was a mistake.

Fair enough, maybe that was too direct.

He's definitely a survivor. He's manage to find countless ways negotiate the hostile politics of football for 4 decades, which is a huge personal achievement. Whilst other claims are questionable, there's no flawd rhetoric and no need for any PR spin to prove that point. The lengths he's gone to in order to stay in the game have proved it. From one of his harshest critics, I'll gladly give him that accolade. Truly impressive, on a personal level.

Well done Mr Hodgson, you can be very proud of yourself.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 19 May 21 11.08am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

Fair enough, maybe that was too direct.

He's definitely a survivor. He's manage to find countless ways negotiate the hostile politics of football for 4 decades, which is a huge personal achievement. Whilst other claims are questionable, there's no flawd rhetoric and no need for any PR spin to prove that point. The lengths he's gone to in order to stay in the game have proved it. From one of his harshest critics, I'll gladly give him that accolade. Truly impressive, on a personal level.

Well done Mr Hodgson, you can be very proud of yourself.

I find it ironic that you state that Westquay '' made several assumptions about me, which are wildly inaccurate, and I take that to be more of a reflection on you than me '' while you continue to peddle your own baseless assumptions about Hodgson.

Some of the personal attacks that you have directed at Hodgson have been way over the top and totally unwarranted.

Which I think is definitely a reflection on you.

 


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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 19 May 21 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles


Well done Mr Hodgson, you can be very proud of yourself.

Bit late for this mate. Perhaps you should have posted just these words first time around then you wouldn't have attracted so many, justifiable, negative reactions.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 May 21 5.39pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

A principled man wouldn't have gone to South Africa in the middle of apartheid.

There's been a lot of cult like praise written on here over Hodgson in the last few years. Largely fuelled by the excellent PR work undertaken by Parish. Always remember Parish is a PR guru and can really turn on the mass charm offensive when he needs to. My views are cynical, and in this case direct, but I'd still wager the timing of the announcement on the last Monday before the final home game of the season has been planned for months and month.

The wording of post was in response to months and months of passive abusive comments by one of supporters who's never provided a coherent argument as to why he deserves to retain his highly paid and highly coveted job. Honestly, what did you expect me to do? Roll over and accept defeat like Roy and Dyke following the 2014 world cup draw?

Whilst my post was crass, particular posters deserved that dig. Their reaction to it showed tactical naivety only matched by Roy. If many are wound up that easily, I expect they have never played any sport. Come on guys, think things through. It was like taking candy from a cry-baby. They asked for it.

You've made several assumptions about me, which are wildly inaccurate, and I take that to be more of a reflection on you than me. I'm not shocked, surprised or offended by the responses - it's probably worth considered what a post will achieve before going in all guns blazing.

However, I admire your passion and sticking directly to what you believe in and I think your forthright response was warranted. Seems like many on HoL are more demanding of fellow posters than they are of the management. The poster I was trying to wind up, is a troll who seems to have a fetish for Priti Petal at the moment. He'd never come out that directly. Unfortunately, he'll never learn that if you go round making petty digs at people (but never enough to earn a yellow), they are going to get you back.

As for Roy, he did very well in his two season in charge and then holding the fort until subtle replacements have become available. I hope he enjoys his retirement.

Parish has also done extremely well to show patients and resist calls from the fans to be removed to the detriment of his own popularity. After FdB, Roy was all we could get in. After that season we were always more than likely to stay up (some of the relegated sides where pants). Parish's patients has frustrated whilst he has been willing to let us limp over the finish line, avoiding a payout and showing he's not a trigger happy chairman, and held on until a number of excellent alternative candidates are on the market. He's a cold, calculating man, you can tell how he's become a self made millionaire and excellent chairman.

To be honest I think a lot of the responses to you were a bit hysterical and typical crass football discussion board responses given the content of your post. Indeed I have seen far worse posts in the Politics section which received less vitriolic responses.

This is a board for debating and some will not like what others post. You have your view which I agree with in part but not all. I believe Roy has many good and honourable traits but I have never been a fan of his footballing style and have made that clear on numerous occasions.

I have little to comment on Roy going as I have wanted him out for a while however I do gratefully acknowledge his contribution to the club in keeping us up and out of trouble and wish him a happy retirement if that is what he is going to do. I can get no more excited about him as a manager as his tactics have bored me rigid for about three of the four years in charge.

To sum up for me, nice bloke, competent manager, loved the fact that he was a Palace fan but ultimately pleased that he has decided to call it a day. Bring on the new guy and hopefully some money to back him.

 

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View ripleyeagle's Profile ripleyeagle Flag Ripley Surrey 19 May 21 7.27pm Send a Private Message to ripleyeagle Add ripleyeagle as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

A principled man wouldn't have gone to South Africa in the middle of apartheid.

There's been a lot of cult like praise written on here over Hodgson in the last few years. Largely fuelled by the excellent PR work undertaken by Parish. Always remember Parish is a PR guru and can really turn on the mass charm offensive when he needs to. My views are cynical, and in this case direct, but I'd still wager the timing of the announcement on the last Monday before the final home game of the season has been planned for months and month.

The wording of post was in response to months and months of passive abusive comments by one of supporters who's never provided a coherent argument as to why he deserves to retain his highly paid and highly coveted job. Honestly, what did you expect me to do? Roll over and accept defeat like Roy and Dyke following the 2014 world cup draw?

Whilst my post was crass, particular posters deserved that dig. Their reaction to it showed tactical naivety only matched by Roy. If many are wound up that easily, I expect they have never played any sport. Come on guys, think things through. It was like taking candy from a cry-baby. They asked for it.

You've made several assumptions about me, which are wildly inaccurate, and I take that to be more of a reflection on you than me. I'm not shocked, surprised or offended by the responses - it's probably worth considered what a post will achieve before going in all guns blazing.

However, I admire your passion and sticking directly to what you believe in and I think your forthright response was warranted. Seems like many on HoL are more demanding of fellow posters than they are of the management. The poster I was trying to wind up, is a troll who seems to have a fetish for Priti Petal at the moment. He'd never come out that directly. Unfortunately, he'll never learn that if you go round making petty digs at people (but never enough to earn a yellow), they are going to get you back.

As for Roy, he did very well in his two season in charge and then holding the fort until subtle replacements have become available. I hope he enjoys his retirement.

Parish has also done extremely well to show patients and resist calls from the fans to be removed to the detriment of his own popularity. After FdB, Roy was all we could get in. After that season we were always more than likely to stay up (some of the relegated sides where pants). Parish's patients has frustrated whilst he has been willing to let us limp over the finish line, avoiding a payout and showing he's not a trigger happy chairman, and held on until a number of excellent alternative candidates are on the market. He's a cold, calculating man, you can tell how he's become a self made millionaire and excellent chairman.

You are a very sad person,have you got any mates.

 

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