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Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 19 May 21 8.19am

Originally posted by Orange1290


The queues at border control at Heathrow are nothing to do with 'control'. In fact they were 'out of control' due to putting far too few staff on to handle those that were arriving. These were scheduled aircraft arrivals, not just appearing out of the blue and numbers on board these aircrafts were well known in advance. The total lack of segregation between those arriving from India and other areas of much less risk, even green risk areas was a huge and elementary mistake, causing huge potential for virus spread. Why not have immigration much closer to the gates as they do in many other European airports where you will find a handful of immigration booths serving a handful of gates? Everything at Heathrow and Gatwick is designed for those who are paid to work there and not for those who are paying to use them, totally the wrong way around.

I’m so glad you joined this site.

It’s great to have someone who is an expert in everything onboard.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 May 21 8.24am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I’m so glad you joined this site.

It’s great to have someone who is an expert in everything onboard.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 19 May 21 8.37am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

My understanding was that the army would be responsible for the logistics / planning for moving the vaccine around the country.

I assume this meant that AZ or Pfizer would deliver the vaccine to one location and then somebody would need to ensure it was broken down and sent to the various locations. The army may not have actually moved it just come up with the plan.

As you know I volunteer at a vaccine centre I have seen the Army and Air Force medics loads of times they do a good job it's a pleasure to work along side them.

There are also lots of retired medics and other volunteers

Everyone has done a great job

I just am sceptical it was the army organising things. I have seen no sign. The NHS is a big beast that can raise its game when needed.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 May 21 8.42am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

There are also lots of retired medics and other volunteers

Everyone has done a great job

I just am sceptical it was the army organising things. I have seen no sign. The NHS is a big beast that can raise its game when needed.

Whoever is responsible I have been totally impressed with the organisation, from arranging appointment to the well organised vaccine centres.
Keep up the good work Badger

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 May 21 9.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

There are also lots of retired medics and other volunteers

Everyone has done a great job

I just am sceptical it was the army organising things. I have seen no sign. The NHS is a big beast that can raise its game when needed.

Agreed.

Like I said I don't believe the Army actually organised the vaccine centres but somebody would have needed to plan the logistics for getting the vaccine from the factories to the local surgery. This would probably have been a one off exercise which the army could certainly have done.

In fairness I have not heard the army claiming any credit and I agree the NHS has done well.

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 19 May 21 11.07am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

I’m so glad you joined this site.

It’s great to have someone who is an expert in everything onboard.

Yep, it's called life experience, you should try it someday then you'll be able to contribute to the discussion

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 19 May 21 11.59am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, it's called life experience, you should try it someday then you'll be able to contribute to the discussion

One would have thought life experience includes some good times too, amongst the bad.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 May 21 12.48pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, it's called life experience, you should try it someday then you'll be able to contribute to the discussion

Some might call it something else

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 19 May 21 3.30pm

Originally posted by Orange1290


The queues at border control at Heathrow are nothing to do with 'control'. In fact they were 'out of control' due to putting far too few staff on to handle those that were arriving. These were scheduled aircraft arrivals, not just appearing out of the blue and numbers on board these aircrafts were well known in advance. The total lack of segregation between those arriving from India and other areas of much less risk, even green risk areas was a huge and elementary mistake, causing huge potential for virus spread. Why not have immigration much closer to the gates as they do in many other European airports where you will find a handful of immigration booths serving a handful of gates? Everything at Heathrow and Gatwick is designed for those who are paid to work there and not for those who are paying to use them, totally the wrong way around.

Yes that's certainly concerning. The number of people 'slipping through the net', and of course when there variants are in the country it's impossible to put that genie back in the bottle.

Edited by BlueJay (19 May 2021 3.32pm)

 

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Originally posted by Orange1290

Yep, it's called life experience, you should try it someday then you'll be able to contribute to the discussion

Got a feeling your negative oh woe is me traveller lifestyle might be put in the shade a little.

 

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Astra Zeneca News

Bromley Civic Centre is doing walk ins (no appointment) up to 4pm for the following:

1. First dose if you are over 40.

2. 2nd Dose 8 weeks after first dose. We have several people today who had appointments for 12 weeks and we gave it to them earlier.

Remember a walk in is not a guarantee you will get it and you must fit the current age requirements. But it is handy if you want to speed up the 2nd dose.

 


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Originally posted by Orange1290


The queues at border control at Heathrow are nothing to do with 'control'. In fact they were 'out of control' due to putting far too few staff on to handle those that were arriving. These were scheduled aircraft arrivals, not just appearing out of the blue and numbers on board these aircrafts were well known in advance. The total lack of segregation between those arriving from India and other areas of much less risk, even green risk areas was a huge and elementary mistake, causing huge potential for virus spread. Why not have immigration much closer to the gates as they do in many other European airports where you will find a handful of immigration booths serving a handful of gates? Everything at Heathrow and Gatwick is designed for those who are paid to work there and not for those who are paying to use them, totally the wrong way around.


So, it's now been announced that there will be a separate terminal at Heathrow for the handling of arrivals from the UK's 'red list' countries. Well, I never, anyone would have thought this was a good idea but weeks too late as usual.

 


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