Incorrect.

Sausages and burger are not pretend meat at all yes cheap branded ones do have a bunch of fillers in them but they still have meat in and if you really want to you can find good quality a lot of people go for cheap or stick to brands thinking they are quality when they are not.

Burgers are very easy to make anyway with mince.

McD is real beef that is a fact so this whole padded out etc is BS. (quality wise and the way it is processed I wont comment on)

You don't really know much about meat do you fat is part of meat you want fatty cuts. (I bet you are one of those scared of fat or very picky about it)

Mince meat again you can get different types and a variety of quality

The chewy bits this could be a number of things ranging from fat to collagen even cartilage all are fine.

The standards in this country are good go to countries outside EU you will really see how poor it is.

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I see you are at it again trying to twist what people post because you don't have the knowledge to counter.

nothign in that quote from myself states to eat mcdonalds I corrected the other poster who claimed the burger was filled up with other fillers.

Typical vegan tactics don't understand something which goes against their ideology be dogmatic

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Funny

Correct you have no idea what you are talking about finally you own it.

If you want to talk about industries how about doing a bit of research that is not coming from vegan sites.

Already covered this before a lot of the big companies are invested in meat and plants trying to get rid of meat why is that because its about £

Big pharma is also onboard these people don't care about human health they want you sick for many years again making £

If you even understand basic human physiology you would know this.

Their is no multi generation vegans.

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i am pescatarian & have been all my life.

there are burgers, sausages & mince out there that taste amazing, and even tho they are made from soya are better for the planet than meat alternatives!

im not interested in vegetarian bacon, steak & fish as in my eyes that is ridiculous and crosses a line.

lots of people i know who eat meat actually prefer the vegetarian alternatives.

also, forget the alternatives....chickpeas, lentils & beans provide a much better, cleaner form of protein than anything meat/fish could provide.

for me, im not against anybody eating meat, you can do what you want...just dont try and belittle what i do & i wont prove you wrong!

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Totally agree with your last paragraph. Personally I like plant based fish but can understand why some don’t. As I have said before dairy free ice cream is some of the best I have ever tasted and would recommend anyone to try it.

Do you consume eggs and fish plus some dairy?

I helped coach pescatarian they had really bad gut health and was very strict with limiting the likes of fish.

The items you mention regarding taste this is by design using science this is why people become addicted and can over eat on a lot of this food it triggers chemical responses yet you eat more because you are not feeding with proper nutrition it is processed garbage.

Wrong regarding highlighted section

The science shows animal sourced protein is the most bio available not sure how you came to that conclusion.

Clean not so they are full of anti nutrients and high in oxalates meat has neither of these.

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