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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 24 May 21 8.15pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I read this

The Eurovision Song Contest is owned and organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU). The EBU includes national broadcasters from across Europe and beyond. That’s why Israel and Australia participate, because they are in the EBU.

As with the other national broadcasters, the BBC pays to the EBU a participation fee. Along with four countries - France, Italy, Spain and Germany - the size of the BBC’s participation fee allows the UK to automatically take part in the Saturday night grand final. Most countries must qualify from the semi finals held on the Tuesday and Thursday beforehand.

The BBC’s participation fee is over £300,000. And this secures broadcasting of the two semis and the grand final. That’s nearly eight hours of live television. Cheaper than commissioning and broadcasting new home produced television for a Saturday night.

If the UK were to win, then the BBC would have the option to host the following year. The cost of hosting falls mainly to the host broadcaster. The Swedish Television spent £16 million on hosting the 2016 Stockholm contest. While Russian television spent over £25 million on hosting the 2009 contest in Moscow.

The BBC would be unlikely to want to spend over £15 million of licence payers’ money on an event with European sentiment. So it’s better for the BBC to make less effort and avoid the costs of winning. And it shows in the UK’s recent entries.

So we are entering a competition not to win it?

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 May 21 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

So we are entering a competition not to win it?

That’s what the man said. We enter for the shxts and gigs.

Edited by Mapletree (24 May 2021 10.21pm)

 

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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 25 May 21 12.25am Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I read this

The Eurovision Song Contest is owned and organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU). The EBU includes national broadcasters from across Europe and beyond. That’s why Israel and Australia participate, because they are in the EBU.

As with the other national broadcasters, the BBC pays to the EBU a participation fee. Along with four countries - France, Italy, Spain and Germany - the size of the BBC’s participation fee allows the UK to automatically take part in the Saturday night grand final. Most countries must qualify from the semi finals held on the Tuesday and Thursday beforehand.

The BBC’s participation fee is over £300,000. And this secures broadcasting of the two semis and the grand final. That’s nearly eight hours of live television. Cheaper than commissioning and broadcasting new home produced television for a Saturday night.

If the UK were to win, then the BBC would have the option to host the following year. The cost of hosting falls mainly to the host broadcaster. The Swedish Television spent £16 million on hosting the 2016 Stockholm contest. While Russian television spent over £25 million on hosting the 2009 contest in Moscow.

The BBC would be unlikely to want to spend over £15 million of licence payers’ money on an event with European sentiment. So it’s better for the BBC to make less effort and avoid the costs of winning. And it shows in the UK’s recent entries.

I remember Ireland winning 2 or 3 times in a row in the 90's or 00's. They then realized that they were losing a lot of money by hosting it every year and so purposely entered a cr@p act the following year!

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 May 21 1.37am

Originally posted by eritheagle

I remember Ireland winning 2 or 3 times in a row in the 90's or 00's. They then realized that they were losing a lot of money by hosting it every year and so purposely entered a cr@p act the following year!

Now that you mention it I do remember some of the commentary and reporting at the time basically saying that basically they 'couldn't afford to win it again'.

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 25 May 21 8.11am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by eritheagle

I remember Ireland winning 2 or 3 times in a row in the 90's or 00's. They then realized that they were losing a lot of money by hosting it every year and so purposely entered a cr@p act the following year!

And Riverdance stealing the show.

 

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 25 May 21 9.47am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

The winner was snorting coke on telly!!!
He denies it. Going to get a test to prove his innocence.
Coke detection is 2 days so too late.
You can’t make it up

"Drugs Scandal ruins Rock bands career" is a headline that has never been written ever.

Goes to prove even the rock acts on here are fake.

#WhatWouldOzzyDo

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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View CrazyBadger's Profile CrazyBadger Flag Ware 25 May 21 9.50am Send a Private Message to CrazyBadger Add CrazyBadger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I read this

The Eurovision Song Contest is owned and organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU). The EBU includes national broadcasters from across Europe and beyond. That’s why Israel and Australia participate, because they are in the EBU.

As with the other national broadcasters, the BBC pays to the EBU a participation fee. Along with four countries - France, Italy, Spain and Germany - the size of the BBC’s participation fee allows the UK to automatically take part in the Saturday night grand final. Most countries must qualify from the semi finals held on the Tuesday and Thursday beforehand.

The BBC’s participation fee is over £300,000. And this secures broadcasting of the two semis and the grand final. That’s nearly eight hours of live television. Cheaper than commissioning and broadcasting new home produced television for a Saturday night.

If the UK were to win, then the BBC would have the option to host the following year. The cost of hosting falls mainly to the host broadcaster. The Swedish Television spent £16 million on hosting the 2016 Stockholm contest. While Russian television spent over £25 million on hosting the 2009 contest in Moscow.

The BBC would be unlikely to want to spend over £15 million of licence payers’ money on an event with European sentiment. So it’s better for the BBC to make less effort and avoid the costs of winning. And it shows in the UK’s recent entries.

Do we have a similar agreement with FIFA?

 


"It was a Team effort, I guess it took all players working together to lose this one"

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View Frickin Saweet's Profile Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 25 May 21 9.55am Send a Private Message to Frickin Saweet Add Frickin Saweet as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

If you look carefully both hands were a fair distance away from his face. Looked more like a kind of celebration caught at the wrong time by the camera. He's thankfully been cleared of drug use [Link]

this is what I thought. I never watch the show itself, not my cup of tea, but had a look at the video clips once I read about the coke scandal, which is more my cup of tea. His hands were too far apart, and his face was too far away from the table not to be using a straw or note or whatever to do the line, which he'd need his hands for. Any occasional coke taker would have spotted this. Shame for the band if they're really not into that sort of thing and got tarred with the brush, despite their 'rock n roll will never die' or whatever line it was being somewhat out of sync with their 'we never take drugs' position.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 May 21 12.16pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

I read this

The Eurovision Song Contest is owned and organised by the European Broadcasting Union (EBU). The EBU includes national broadcasters from across Europe and beyond. That’s why Israel and Australia participate, because they are in the EBU.

As with the other national broadcasters, the BBC pays to the EBU a participation fee. Along with four countries - France, Italy, Spain and Germany - the size of the BBC’s participation fee allows the UK to automatically take part in the Saturday night grand final. Most countries must qualify from the semi finals held on the Tuesday and Thursday beforehand.

The BBC’s participation fee is over £300,000. And this secures broadcasting of the two semis and the grand final. That’s nearly eight hours of live television. Cheaper than commissioning and broadcasting new home produced television for a Saturday night.

If the UK were to win, then the BBC would have the option to host the following year. The cost of hosting falls mainly to the host broadcaster. The Swedish Television spent £16 million on hosting the 2016 Stockholm contest. While Russian television spent over £25 million on hosting the 2009 contest in Moscow.

The BBC would be unlikely to want to spend over £15 million of licence payers’ money on an event with European sentiment. So it’s better for the BBC to make less effort and avoid the costs of winning. And it shows in the UK’s recent entries.

Cynical, but right now with the BBC budget under intense scrutiny and enemies everywhere, possibly right.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 25 May 21 12.22pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Do we have a similar agreement with FIFA?

I think both summer tournaments are channeled via the EBU (and other events) so those stating we should withdraw from the EBU may wish to reconsider.

The proposed boycott is an embarrassing suggestion. We're not playing because we're not winning..!

Earlier up the thread someone suggested paying less and going through the semi-finals. That might be the answer.

7 million will still tune in even if we are not represented as the show is such a camp and cheesy laugh. A damn good return on our fee paid... unless we do something stupid like win it.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 May 21 12.47pm

Originally posted by CrazyBadger

Do we have a similar agreement with FIFA?

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 25 May 21 12.49pm

Originally posted by Mapletree

That’s what the man said. We enter for the shxts and gigs.

Edited by Mapletree (24 May 2021 10.21pm)

Bill Bailey has put himself forward for next year. We might as well go with something like that really, at least having a laugh in the process. Aren't we known for our self deprecating humour. We can use our big fat zero to our advantage (the points I mean, not Bill!))

 

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