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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 25 May 21 7.37am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290


Well, the EU can apply more sanction although there are already a huge number if these imposed already. Additionally, as sanctions are imposed, Putin simply overrides these by supplementing the impact of any sanctions with more support. This in turn alienates and brings Belarus closer to Russia every time the west does this. Sure you can ban Belarussian airlines from landing at European airports and make Belarussian airspace a no go zone but the real issue is Russia, which will cancel out any impact on this relatively small country.

Sanctions only hurt the normal residents of Belarus, the 'elite' will feel no effect from them as they will receive reciprocal support from Russia.

Edited by Orange1290 (24 May 2021 4.26pm)

Lowish oil prices hurt Russia and the Belarussian economy is dependant on Russia.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 May 21 6.48pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

An enjoyable throw-back to the cold war.

I was half-expecting Michael Caine and Colonel Stock.

Or Callan versus 'Richmond'.

Those were the days.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 May 21 6.51pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

An enjoyable throw-back to the cold war.

I was half-expecting Michael Caine and Colonel Stock.

Or Callan versus 'Richmond'.

Those were the days.

Just finished watching that on London Live

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 May 21 7.02pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Just finished watching that on London Live

You too? I am an addict.

The best film ever for me 'The Spy who came in from the cold'.


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 May 21 7.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

You too? I am an addict.

The best film ever for me 'The Spy who came in from the cold'.


Tinker Tailor with Alec Guiness.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 26 May 21 11.01pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Switzerland walks away from EU deal

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13 years of talks down the drain. The EU again pushing for too much, after Brexit you would have hoped that they would have realised this was an opportunity to create a template which perhaps the UK and other non EU countries might have considered in the future.

Freedom of movement for workers was the sticking point again.

President Van Useless not covering herself in glory.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 27 May 21 12.34am

Originally posted by Badger11

Switzerland walks away from EU deal

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13 years of talks down the drain. The EU again pushing for too much, after Brexit you would have hoped that they would have realised this was an opportunity to create a template which perhaps the UK and other non EU countries might have considered in the future.

Freedom of movement for workers was the sticking point again.

President Van Useless not covering herself in glory.

From our perspective now, it's probably best that the whole thing falls apart and gets put back together again in terms of ease of trade, but not the fixation on freedom of movement. Sure it's a privilege to be able to more where we wish, but without limits the pace of change is too fast. That's the sad thing about our relationship with the EU, if they had been reasonable something of mutual benefit (that would've actually benefited the whole of the EU) could've been thrashed out.

 

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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 27 May 21 6.37am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

"Boris Johnson warned not to strike Australia trade deal that could 'decimate' British farming"

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Not a nice place trying to make deals as a 3rd country, especially when you have a government that doesn't care about local industry.

Edited by Orange1290 (27 May 2021 6.37am)

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 27 May 21 6.49am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

That's surprising
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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 May 21 7.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Orange1290

"Boris Johnson warned not to strike Australia trade deal that could 'decimate' British farming"

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Not a nice place trying to make deals as a 3rd country, especially when you have a government that doesn't care about local industry.

Edited by Orange1290 (27 May 2021 6.37am)

Any trade negotiation will impact somebody so far I have not heard what the UK will benefit from and that to me is the key question. I am not in favour of giving up our farming industry for nothing so what do we get in return.

As for our farmers they have had 40 years of being funded by the taxpayer (CAP) and yet we have had many food / health scandals during this time.

They may not be able to compete with Australian large scale farming so they should focus on quality.

I would like to see any taxpayer support focused on free range, organic and environmental friendly produce, the public can then make the choice as to what they buy.

 


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View Orange1290's Profile Orange1290 Flag 27 May 21 7.59am Send a Private Message to Orange1290 Add Orange1290 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

That's surprising
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Not surprising at all as the report also states the reason:

"China was the only major economy to see its global trade grow last year as it became the first big country to emerge from the pandemic."

However it also states:

"Despite a 23.1% fall in total trade with European Union countries as a whole in the period, the EU remains the UK's biggest trading partner, the report found."

To put things into perspective, in 2020 Germany was the 3rd largest exporter of goods in the world, more than double the the value of UK exports at nearly 1.4 trillion. Germany has a population only 20% larger than the UK. It's really no contest in global trade.

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Edited by Orange1290 (27 May 2021 8.02am)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 21 11.50am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Never mind Brexit this is the real threat to peoples job

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