The problem is young people in London moan about not being able to afford a house in London as if they have a god given right too. Most people can’t afford to live there so live outside of London instead where house prices are cheaper. There are so many first time buyer schemes and ways of getting on the ladder now- many choose not to as they’d rather spend 600 a month on a room in Clapham which is completely their choice but they can’t then moan about it imo.

You want more and more people (left voters) relentlessly being imported into England, this is what you’re going to get. Housing issues.

COYP

They’ll get a shock when they move to SE England suburbia or outer zones but still busy but without the graduate crowd and find it’s just the same as the suburbs they grew up in and left as soon as they could and tried not to go back to it for too long between university and career ladder.

COYP

Less educated people are more likely to vote against their actual beliefs, a study by UCR found this year. They are more likely to support left wing policies such as housing aid, welfare for unemployed, help for poorer students, financial aid to get people into the NHS etc. But that doesn't translate into voting for those policies. The less educated voters are more susceptible to the "demagogue candidate" who uses "caricatured notions of left and right to position himself before less attentive voters". Eg Trump or Boris. A politician can get less educated people to vote for them by politicising anti immigration or anti-establishment and these voters will not only vote against their own belief systems but against their own self interest as well.

To quote another poster in this thread:
'It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.' (Anon)

That just reads you and the author don’t like what the majority think and feel, and very likely felt for a long time, but finally had someone come in and represent them/these opinions.

COYP

I went to the University of Life and it is s***. Expensive drinks, rubbish qualifications and very little sense of the fraternity that truly matters when it comes to moving on in this world. If I have my time over again, would happily swap the street smarts for a proper degree.

But, and this is where I have to take umbrage with your title, I am becoming more and more convinced that how we define 'educated' is becoming diluted.

For example, the driving forces behind the second Brexit referendum push, were primarily people who would define themselves as 'educated'. And it was insanity. Utter madness. There could be no second referendum without a general election which delivered a majority of MP's in favour and no general election, based on the available constituency break down data of how people voted in both 2016 and the Euro elections of 2019, would deliver that. Impossible. All the evidence was there for anybody to discover and yet, the supposedly brightest minds in the UK, did not bother.

Now I have bored you all enough with my theory that the people's vote was actually nothing more than a pressure group to rid Labour of Corbyn but enough, supposedly, educated people, backed it at face value anyway.

I have zero problems with the most intelligent people being the one's who make it into positions of leadership at all levels.

But given that the supposedly brightest have, so far this century, bought us the invasion of Iraq, the destabilising of Libya, the financial crash of 2008, the 'second referendum' campaign and so on, I reserve the right to look down my 'ill-educated nose at them and hold them in utter scorn.

And have to question why, when we have so many people now with University degrees being given almost exclusive access to many, many career ladders, that nothing seems to be done right anymore?

Edited by Matov (28 May 2021 11.02am)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.