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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 07 Jun 21 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hate to butt in but I have seen people shaking with fear because they don't like needles and yet they turned up. Doing something you are scared of is a form of bravery.

It's an irrational fear perhaps but in that particular context I can concur.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 07 Jun 21 6.33pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

I hate to butt in but I have seen people shaking with fear because they don't like needles and yet they turned up. Doing something you are scared of is a form of bravery.

ASCPFC is being vaccinated so that he can travel to a couple of Palace games next season. Now THAT'S bravery for you!

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 07 Jun 21 8.38pm

Originally posted by YT

ASCPFC is being vaccinated so that he can travel to a couple of Palace games next season. Now THAT'S bravery for you!

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I don't really see a conflict here.

I don't believe that people should be forced to have the vaccine, but I certainly think that they are unwise not to, especially if they are not young and fit.

I have had my two jabs as has my wife even though we had Covid last year.

Am I completely convinced about the safety of the vaccine?
That is not really possible.

Do I think the balance of benefit to risk favours the vaccines? Yes.
Will there be resentment toward those who don't get inoculated? Inevitably.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (07 Jun 2021 11.09pm)

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jun 21 9.00am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I very much suspect that 'Freedom Day' will be pushed back from 21 June after "Glum" and Glummer" AKA Vallance and Whitty have put the frighteners on politicians in thrall to doom-mongers.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Jun 21 9.08am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I very much suspect that 'Freedom Day' will be pushed back from 21 June after "Glum" and Glummer" AKA Vallance and Whitty have put the frighteners on politicians in thrall to doom-mongers.

If it's pushed back a further 2 weeks I don't have a problem with that. Small beer in the scheme of things.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jun 21 9.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If it's pushed back a further 2 weeks I don't have a problem with that. Small beer in the scheme of things.

After 2 weeks they will find more reasons to delay by another 2 weeks !

Infections are rising they will bellow ! Yes, this was expected but the vaccines are working with deaths and hospital admissions greatly reduced.
Mr Hancock has said himself that vaccines have 'broken the chain' between infections and serious illness.

The goalposts are being moved and the doom-mongers will forever find reasons to continue with restrictions.


Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2021 9.18am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 08 Jun 21 9.28am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

After 2 weeks they will find more reasons to delay by another 2 weeks !

Infections are rising they will bellow ! Yes, this was expected but the vaccines are working with deaths and hospital admissions greatly reduced.
Mr Hancock has said himself that vaccines have 'broken the chain' between infections and serious illness.

The goalposts are being moved and the doom-mongers will forever find reasons to continue with restrictions.

Edited by Willo (08 Jun 2021 9.18am)

The delay should only relate to ensuring that all adults have been offered the jab. After that I agree with you.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jun 21 9.34am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

The delay should only relate to ensuring that all adults have been offered the jab. After that I agree with you.

I am in agreement with Daniel Hannan who wrote :

"When the roadmap was agreed, Sage published various predictions. It offered a range of five different scenarios for how many people would be in hospital by now, depending on what policies were followed and how the virus behaved. The actual number, as I write, is lower than any of the five forecasts. Since the sole justification for the restrictions was to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed, that is the measure that matters. If we abandon the timetable on the basis that some unexpectedly bad thing might happen in the future then, by definition, we are giving up on ever reopening."

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Jun 21 10.18am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by YT

ASCPFC is being vaccinated so that he can travel to a couple of Palace games next season. Now THAT'S bravery for you!

I didn't even cry when that nasty young, blonde, slim, female doctor injected me.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 08 Jun 21 10.56am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

In the immortal words of John Lydon, 'ever feel like you've been cheated?'

My missus was told today that the salon she was using is permanently closing down.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2021 10.57am)

 


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View Lombardinho's Profile Lombardinho Flag London 08 Jun 21 11.04am Send a Private Message to Lombardinho Add Lombardinho as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

In the immortal words of John Lydon, 'ever feel like you've been cheated?'

My missus was told today that the salon she was using is permanently closing down.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Jun 2021 10.57am)


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