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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 27 Jul 21 2.47pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Benteke got some minutes when Belgium beat Finland (2-0).

A total of 11 minutes.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Online Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 27 Jul 21 3.15pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Surely Benteke will play ahead of Mateta anyway? I understand that some clubs are giving longer leave periods to players involved in international summer tournaments (apparently Kane won't feature for Spurs for the first few weeks of the season) but Benteke didn't play a minute for Belgium and I'd expect him to be available for selection soon.


One would expect so, in which case Mateta is running out of time to show PV what he's capable of. Unfortunate that he got Covid when he did. It hasn't helped his cause.

 

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View OneMax's Profile OneMax Flag Maidstone 27 Jul 21 5.37pm Send a Private Message to OneMax Add OneMax as a friend

Originally posted by Deabo2030

All I can say about Mateta from the friendly with Ipswich Town is; he was sluggish and looked as if couldnt find the net if it were 4ft wider and 6 ft higher?


Mateta against Ipswich hits the bar and post plus three other chances positioning was exceptional he looks the real deal to me give him game time.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Online Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Aug 21 3.55pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

There has been some debate on one of these threads recently about the terms of our loan agreement for Mateta.

For what it's worth, in his latest article on Mateta in the Athletic, Matt Woosnam states that the obligation to buy (for £15m) kicks in after Mateta has made 15 PL starts. make of that what you will.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 02 Aug 21 4.08pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

So far I have not been impressed.
He does not appear to be a natural finisher and his hold up play is poor.
His main attribute appears to be his awkwardness and unpredictability which may make him difficult to play against.
Thereagain, I was wrong about Sorloth who looked to me to be fairly clueless, but seems set to have a decent career despite any reservations I may have.

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 02 Aug 21 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

I was optimistic when he joined with what seemed like a reasonable CV.

But, from what little I've seen so far (friendly highlights) he has been disappointing to say the least. Maybe needs more playing time although a couple of poor first touches and apparent lack of pace don't bode well.

He did score a clever goal at Brighton though.

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 02 Aug 21 5.31pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I was optimistic when he joined with what seemed like a reasonable CV.

But, from what little I've seen so far (friendly highlights) he has been disappointing to say the least. Maybe needs more playing time although a couple of poor first touches and apparent lack of pace don't bode well.

He did score a clever goal at Brighton though.

...for which we will always fondly remember him, stay or mot.

 

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View Putitout's Profile Putitout Flag Oxford 02 Aug 21 5.51pm Send a Private Message to Putitout Add Putitout as a friend


For the fee said to be involved Mateta,, , is a bit rough at the edges,
It’s not hard to see the possibilities with him, but from what I see so far, he seems more like someone we took from a league 1 ,or Championship side because we thought he would develop..
At the minute he creates at least as many questions as he gives answers. It is possible .some of his faults can be worked on, many here have realised his control and protection of the ball is still not quiet where it needs to be for the Premie4 league. And it looks like he is to erratic in front of goal to be considered a natural finisher.
At this time the one question he does answer is,the one about whether we need more cover for Benteke, it’s clear we do.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Online Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 02 Aug 21 6.12pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

With Benteke purportedly injured (so I am told) and only having come back from his hols last week, I would expect Mateta to be leading the line against Watford, and if he performs, against Chelsea as well.

The alternative would be to move Ayew back to the no 9 slot which he filled reasonably well a couple of seasons back and which he occupied when Mateta went off against Reading and promptly went and scored. That option would open up a place for Rak-Sakyi or Banks on the right until Olise is fit to play.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 02 Aug 21 6.18pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

As I posted the other day, on a positive note, he is getting into good positions. However he lacks composure at the crucial moment.

As things stand, I don't see him getting the 15 selections that will trigger the transfer fee, which we could arguably spend elsewhere.

 


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View BelfastEagle's Profile BelfastEagle Flag 02 Aug 21 7.37pm Send a Private Message to BelfastEagle Add BelfastEagle as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

There has been some debate on one of these threads recently about the terms of our loan agreement for Mateta.

For what it's worth, in his latest article on Mateta in the Athletic, Matt Woosnam states that the obligation to buy (for £15m) kicks in after Mateta has made 15 PL starts. make of that what you will.

From the official palace press release :

Crystal Palace have signed Jean-Philippe Mateta on an 18-month loan deal, subject to international clearance, with an option to make the move permanent

Note it says option…..not obligation


Edited by BelfastEagle (02 Aug 2021 7.40pm)

 

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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 02 Aug 21 8.10pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

With Benteke purportedly injured (so I am told) and only having come back from his hols last week, I would expect Mateta to be leading the line against Watford, and if he performs, against Chelsea as well.

The alternative would be to move Ayew back to the no 9 slot which he filled reasonably well a couple of seasons back and which he occupied when Mateta went off against Reading and promptly went and scored. That option would open up a place for Rak-Sakyi or Banks on the right until Olise is fit to play.

Surely this is the better option? Ayew had proven himself a useful, hard working premier league striker with a reasonable goals to games ratio, has mobility and hold up play. Plus he's a hard working but crap winger in my opinion, so it's not like we'd miss him out wide.

Whether it's a bit much for the likes of Banks or Rak-Sahki to fill in wide right only time will tell, but given the arrival of Gallagher it's possible that Schlupp could go out wide.

 

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