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palace99 New Mills 29 Jul 21 2.40pm
Originally posted by topcat I just searched on Google. Of the first 7 websites claiming knowledge, 2 didn't list Clyne, 2 more listed him being on £19k a week with the top wage quoted at £80k a week. I suspect that the £80k is what he was on at Liverpool and the rest is pure guesswork. I can't see Parish offering him over £30k/£40k a week, which may be why he doesn't appear to have signed a new contract. We do need a mixture of experience and youth, I'd be happy for Clyne to stay another season if a deal can be done. that sounds more realistic - thanks. I'm guessing it was c£20k upfront and a big extra per game played/won/clean sheet etc. Agents often roll up all potential bonuses and include this in the single figure quoted to make it as high as possible.
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palace99

New Mills 29 Jul 21 2.40pm

Originally posted by topcat

I just searched on Google. Of the first 7 websites claiming knowledge, 2 didn't list Clyne, 2 more listed him being on £19k a week with the top wage quoted at £80k a week. I suspect that the £80k is what he was on at Liverpool and the rest is pure guesswork. I can't see Parish offering him over £30k/£40k a week, which may be why he doesn't appear to have signed a new contract.

We do need a mixture of experience and youth, I'd be happy for Clyne to stay another season if a deal can be done.

that sounds more realistic - thanks.

I'm guessing it was c£20k upfront and a big extra per game played/won/clean sheet etc.

Agents often roll up all potential bonuses and include this in the single figure quoted to make it as high as possible.

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palace99 New Mills 29 Jul 21 2.49pm
Originally posted by thai-eagle Liked what I saw of Clyne last season, and he improved game by game. Hope he signs up for two more years. he only played 13 league games last season, the last of which was the 3.0 home defeat by Burnley in Feb. If anything i thought he started ok but got worse the more games he played. Ward was definitely preferred in the last 2 to 3 months of the season (although Clyne did have the odd injury during this period). I have no issue offering a 1 year deal on a smaller basic, plus bonuses structure but i expect a few injuries will disrupt his season as it did last year
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palace99

New Mills 29 Jul 21 2.49pm

Originally posted by thai-eagle

Liked what I saw of Clyne last season, and he improved game by game. Hope he signs up for two more years.

he only played 13 league games last season, the last of which was the 3.0 home defeat by Burnley in Feb.

If anything i thought he started ok but got worse the more games he played. Ward was definitely preferred in the last 2 to 3 months of the season (although Clyne did have the odd injury during this period).

I have no issue offering a 1 year deal on a smaller basic, plus bonuses structure but i expect a few injuries will disrupt his season as it did last year

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Omph Liverpool 04 Aug 21 9.39pm
Does anyone have any clue of the status of Clyne? We've gone beyond the time when any new RB could be integrated for Chelsea and he has had the lion's share of preseason minutes. I assume we'd need a contract of some sort in place before Chelsea if he were to play or even be part of the bench. Maybe not. Don't know how that works. Edited by Omph (04 Aug 2021 9.40pm)
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Liverpool 04 Aug 21 9.39pm

Does anyone have any clue of the status of Clyne?

We've gone beyond the time when any new RB could be integrated for Chelsea and he has had the lion's share of preseason minutes.

I assume we'd need a contract of some sort in place before Chelsea if he were to play or even be part of the bench. Maybe not. Don't know how that works.

Edited by Omph (04 Aug 2021 9.40pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Aug 21 12.04pm
Let's hope he's not a patsy for our defensive errors. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Aug 21 12.04pm

Let's hope he's not a patsy for our defensive errors.

Red and Blue Army!

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Badger11 Beckenham 05 Aug 21 5.54pm
Gotta luv click bait. I saw this headline "Crystal Palace consider signing 30-year-old, he’s been spotted at the training ground" Wow so who is the mystery man? They mean Clyne, duh considering he's played in our friendlies it's hardly a surprise that he's been seen at the training ground, probably been in Sainsbury's as well. [Link] One more point
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Beckenham 05 Aug 21 5.54pm

Gotta luv click bait. I saw this headline

"Crystal Palace consider signing 30-year-old, he’s been spotted at the training ground"

Wow so who is the mystery man?

They mean Clyne, duh considering he's played in our friendlies it's hardly a surprise that he's been seen at the training ground, probably been in Sainsbury's as well.

[Link]

One more point

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Aug 21 5.56pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Gotta luv click bait. I saw this headline "Crystal Palace consider signing 30-year-old, he’s been spotted at the training ground" Wow so who is the mystery man? They mean Clyne, duh considering he's played in our friendlies it's hardly a surprise that he's been seen at the training ground, probably been in Sainsbury's as well. [Link] And Waitrose in Beckenham not far from the training ground !
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South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Aug 21 5.56pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Gotta luv click bait. I saw this headline

"Crystal Palace consider signing 30-year-old, he’s been spotted at the training ground"

Wow so who is the mystery man?

They mean Clyne, duh considering he's played in our friendlies it's hardly a surprise that he's been seen at the training ground, probably been in Sainsbury's as well.

[Link]

And Waitrose in Beckenham not far from the training ground !

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MersthamEagle Merstham 05 Aug 21 8.35pm
I really hope we get Clyne over the line, if we haven't already? Certain suits the way it appears Vieira wants to play - more than Wardy in my view. I know his wages are high but I cant see us having the cash to pay a fee and wages for an alternative.
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Merstham 05 Aug 21 8.35pm

I really hope we get Clyne over the line, if we haven't already? Certain suits the way it appears Vieira wants to play - more than Wardy in my view.

I know his wages are high but I cant see us having the cash to pay a fee and wages for an alternative.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Aug 21 9.55pm
Originally posted by MersthamEagle I really hope we get Clyne over the line, if we haven't already? Certain suits the way it appears Vieira wants to play - more than Wardy in my view. I know his wages are high but I cant see us having the cash to pay a fee and wages for an alternative. 1. I don't see the club making an exception on the wages front for Clyne. He either takes what's offered or he leaves. 2. I think we will be surprised by just how much money will be available in this window. We seem to have money to splash out on Armstrong and in his interview on Sky Vieira said that if the club see a player they want, they'll go for him which suggests there's money there for the right players.
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Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Aug 21 9.55pm

Originally posted by MersthamEagle

I really hope we get Clyne over the line, if we haven't already? Certain suits the way it appears Vieira wants to play - more than Wardy in my view.

I know his wages are high but I cant see us having the cash to pay a fee and wages for an alternative.

1. I don't see the club making an exception on the wages front for Clyne. He either takes what's offered or he leaves.
2. I think we will be surprised by just how much money will be available in this window. We seem to have money to splash out on Armstrong and in his interview on Sky Vieira said that if the club see a player they want, they'll go for him which suggests there's money there for the right players.

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TheBigToePunt 05 Aug 21 11.52pm
Originally posted by doombear 1. I don't see the club making an exception on the wages front for Clyne. He either takes what's offered or he leaves. 2. I think we will be surprised by just how much money will be available in this window. We seem to have money to splash out on Armstrong and in his interview on Sky Vieira said that if the club see a player they want, they'll go for him which suggests there's money there for the right players. I agree. I hope (and think) that a big part of what the club are doing this summer is not only lowering the average player age but also bringing structure and meritocracy to the wage bill. If Clyne was ever truly getting 80k a week from Palace then it was because of the wages he was on at Liverpool before we signed him, which was his last known market value, in a way. Part of Parish' gamble has been to let senior players contracts run down in the belief (and hope) that they will find that the market now values them less than it did when they signed those contracts with us. By and large that's worked. If Clyne had been offered 40k pw four months ago he may well have rejected it out of hand as he was already on 80k. As of now however, he's on zero, and there doesn't seem to be any great stampede of clubs wanting to offer him the kind of money he was used to. We offer 40k now and we're not halving his wages, we're offering him what he can see is a good deal in this market. Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea. Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm)
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05 Aug 21 11.52pm

Originally posted by doombear

I agree. I hope (and think) that a big part of what the club are doing this summer is not only lowering the average player age but also bringing structure and meritocracy to the wage bill. If Clyne was ever truly getting 80k a week from Palace then it was because of the wages he was on at Liverpool before we signed him, which was his last known market value, in a way.

Part of Parish' gamble has been to let senior players contracts run down in the belief (and hope) that they will find that the market now values them less than it did when they signed those contracts with us. By and large that's worked.

If Clyne had been offered 40k pw four months ago he may well have rejected it out of hand as he was already on 80k. As of now however, he's on zero, and there doesn't seem to be any great stampede of clubs wanting to offer him the kind of money he was used to. We offer 40k now and we're not halving his wages, we're offering him what he can see is a good deal in this market.

Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 21 12.12am
I'm not in the know but I heard that there was a big appearance amount for Clyne but not much of a basic. I think it was around 35k, going up to 60 with win and clean sheet. So a basic of around 35 with bonuses should be around right. I can't see anyone queueing up to offer much more. It was kind of short term pay as you play. It will have to be negotiated into a normal, say, two year contract. After a run of a few games, we will see an improvement. He'll never be the young Clyne we once had, but he's experienced and capable at this level. He's had his ups and downs, we're his best final option I would have thought. The only other sides I can imagine are the promoted nearby ones. If you think about it, he wouldn't be the worst signing for Brentford or Watford, but they seem harder jobs than us. The other would be Bournemouth, but they will probably not want the wages. And he wasn't great for them. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 06 Aug 21 12.12am

I'm not in the know but I heard that there was a big appearance amount for Clyne but not much of a basic. I think it was around 35k, going up to 60 with win and clean sheet. So a basic of around 35 with bonuses should be around right. I can't see anyone queueing up to offer much more. It was kind of short term pay as you play. It will have to be negotiated into a normal, say, two year contract.
After a run of a few games, we will see an improvement. He'll never be the young Clyne we once had, but he's experienced and capable at this level. He's had his ups and downs, we're his best final option I would have thought.
The only other sides I can imagine are the promoted nearby ones. If you think about it, he wouldn't be the worst signing for Brentford or Watford, but they seem harder jobs than us.
The other would be Bournemouth, but they will probably not want the wages. And he wasn't great for them.

Red and Blue Army!

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Dubai Eagle 06 Aug 21 7.44am
Also- if I remember correctly Clyne came back to us on a freebie ( no transfer fee paid to another club because he was out of contract) so there was more money to consider for his wage (salary & structure) Originally posted by TheBigToePunt I agree. I hope (and think) that a big part of what the club are doing this summer is not only lowering the average player age but also bringing structure and meritocracy to the wage bill. If Clyne was ever truly getting 80k a week from Palace then it was because of the wages he was on at Liverpool before we signed him, which was his last known market value, in a way. Part of Parish' gamble has been to let senior players contracts run down in the belief (and hope) that they will find that the market now values them less than it did when they signed those contracts with us. By and large that's worked. If Clyne had been offered 40k pw four months ago he may well have rejected it out of hand as he was already on 80k. As of now however, he's on zero, and there doesn't seem to be any great stampede of clubs wanting to offer him the kind of money he was used to. We offer 40k now and we're not halving his wages, we're offering him what he can see is a good deal in this market. Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea. Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm)
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06 Aug 21 7.44am

Also- if I remember correctly Clyne came back to us on a freebie ( no transfer fee paid to another club because he was out of contract) so there was more money to consider for his wage (salary & structure)

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm)

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palace99 New Mills 06 Aug 21 12.27pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt I agree. I hope (and think) that a big part of what the club are doing this summer is not only lowering the average player age but also bringing structure and meritocracy to the wage bill. If Clyne was ever truly getting 80k a week from Palace then it was because of the wages he was on at Liverpool before we signed him, which was his last known market value, in a way. Part of Parish' gamble has been to let senior players contracts run down in the belief (and hope) that they will find that the market now values them less than it did when they signed those contracts with us. By and large that's worked. If Clyne had been offered 40k pw four months ago he may well have rejected it out of hand as he was already on 80k. As of now however, he's on zero, and there doesn't seem to be any great stampede of clubs wanting to offer him the kind of money he was used to. We offer 40k now and we're not halving his wages, we're offering him what he can see is a good deal in this market. Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea. Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm) i am pretty sure Clyne was not on £80k at Palace last season, this would have been his wage at Liverpool (when he was an England intnl). Whatever deal he signed would have been performance linked as his injury record was a concern. He did have a few injuries, particularly the 2nd half of the season, so the performance element would have made sense for Palace. I suspect Palace are offering similar terms this year - maybe £20k basic, £20k per appearance plus win and clean sheet bonuses. All players are on a staying up bonus too
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New Mills 06 Aug 21 12.27pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Well played SP. Clyne and the club are plainly open to a new deal and believe one to be likely, or he wouldn't be playing in pre season. I expect him to start at Chelsea.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (05 Aug 2021 11.54pm)

i am pretty sure Clyne was not on £80k at Palace last season, this would have been his wage at Liverpool (when he was an England intnl).

Whatever deal he signed would have been performance linked as his injury record was a concern.

He did have a few injuries, particularly the 2nd half of the season, so the performance element would have made sense for Palace.

I suspect Palace are offering similar terms this year - maybe £20k basic, £20k per appearance plus win and clean sheet bonuses. All players are on a staying up bonus too

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