The reason you gave for women.....mistakenly, in your view, thinking they had a better life, was that they didn't realise that careers and less masculine men would somehow somehow make it better. I don't see the evidence for that.

Are you supporting that? Ideologies being forced onto a population by a small elite, when opposition to it was expressed for decades.

I say again, the only reason feminism has had the slight increase in support amongst women is due to the silencing of arguments against it by the media.

I say everything about this is wrong.

Isn't what you're saying here directly refuted by those studies. In my view, ff a majority say they are less happy then essentially their forebears then I think that because you are wedded to the opposite view you've had to invent reasons why they are wrong rather than just accept what the stats said.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 5.45pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

So the more you know the less happy you are? I don't think that correlates myself. Also, it's kind of demeaning to those earlier generations. I remember my grandmother, she wasn't exactly dim.....many women enjoyed having families and security....indeed most still now, even though the messaging they get encourages the opposite.

It isn't one study. These studies are across decades and the message was clear from the fifties through to the seventies.....were these sixties and seventies women unsophisticated as well....just not knowing the working career feminism they were missing out on?

If I remember correctly the studies showed that men reported being happier now than they were in the fifties....probably because they don't have the same responsibility levels and more leisure time.

I'd agree though that far deeper analysis can be made....I don't see why that would support any of your contentions.....but sure.

Well, I'd say it's a pretty strong indicator....otherwise why would opposition be silenced?

Regardless it's wrong....originally feminism was about providing women with more choices in the world.....not about having them agree upon one perspective on social and political issues.

I'd say that's almost anti western.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 6.46pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Amusing that you'd turn that gay.

However, the analogy, as properly intended is just common sense.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

History isn't exactly your strong point Dan.

That's probably tea making.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 7.42pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Losing?

This was settled in this country fifty years ago. You obviously don't read my posts.

Outside of an economic collapse and a significant spilt within British elites your degenerate regressive ideology will continue on damaging and downgrading social and economic outcomes for society.

Social conservatism is doing well elsewhere and I look to the future to see what happens.

Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Aug 2021 8.47pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I think it’s funny how your views rely on you convincing yourself that your lot have ‘already lost’ and us ‘normies’ have been ‘brainwashed’ by the system.

It means you can sit there tutting from the sidelines disapprovingly while having utterly convinced yourself that you are right and that none of the perceived ills in the world are the fault of anyone who thinks similarly to you, and that things were better in the ‘good old days’ of Blighty, when you weren’t even alive.

That means you can sit there thinking ‘not my fault guv’ at literally anything ‘bad’ that goes on the world and blame it on ‘elites’ who you never name and the ‘left’ who have never really held any meaningful power in the west in the last 50 years in any major nation or economy.

It’s a leap of the imagination on speed.