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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 04 Sep 21 11.17pm
It all about opinions and having seen a fair bit of JRS he is nowhere near first team standard and to compare him to Ayew and suggest he should start in his place is just ridiculous.
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Bexley Kent 04 Sep 21 11.17pm

It all about opinions and having seen a fair bit of JRS he is nowhere near first team standard and to compare him to Ayew and suggest he should start in his place is just ridiculous.

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braunstoneagle the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 05 Sep 21 7.51am
Originally posted by Bexley Eagle It all about opinions and having seen a fair bit of JRS he is nowhere near first team standard and to compare him to Ayew and suggest he should start in his place is just ridiculous. do you genuinely think Ayew is anywhere near good enough for our 1st team? ‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

It all about opinions and having seen a fair bit of JRS he is nowhere near first team standard and to compare him to Ayew and suggest he should start in his place is just ridiculous.

do you genuinely think Ayew is anywhere near good enough for our 1st team?

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

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Lanzo-Ad Online Lanzarote 05 Sep 21 8.03am
Originally posted by braunstoneagle do you genuinely think Ayew is anywhere near good enough for our 1st team? Ayew and Benteke are both yesterdays news, Neiether god enough for the first team, never mind JRS, i would hope both to be offloaded in the January window, and the only way to find out if JRS is ready is if you play him, he might thrive he may not. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 05 Sep 21 8.03am

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

do you genuinely think Ayew is anywhere near good enough for our 1st team?

Ayew and Benteke are both yesterdays news, Neiether god enough for the first team, never mind JRS, i would hope both to be offloaded in the January window, and the only way to find out if JRS is ready is if you play him, he might thrive he may not.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Sep 21 10.28am
When Jes signed his contract with Palace it was on the understanding that he would be ' fast tracked ' into the first team squad. Obviously on the proviso that he would earn that selection. So far, so good. He's developing well and at a steady pace. He'll get his minutes, but the current squad is in a transition at the moment - new players, tactics and manager. Ayew has been playing out of position wide right where we know we have a requirement and maybe in time Jes will get a shot at that. His call up for England U20's is further recognition of his talent, but it's unfair to compare him with the likes of Rooney, Owen etc., who were truly outstanding players at that stage of their development. They are the exceptions, not the rule. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Sep 21 10.28am

When Jes signed his contract with Palace it was on the understanding that he would be ' fast tracked ' into the first team squad. Obviously on the proviso that he would earn that selection.

So far, so good. He's developing well and at a steady pace.

He'll get his minutes, but the current squad is in a transition at the moment - new players, tactics and manager. Ayew has been playing out of position wide right where we know we have a requirement and maybe in time Jes will get a shot at that.

His call up for England U20's is further recognition of his talent, but it's unfair to compare him with the likes of Rooney, Owen etc., who were truly outstanding players at that stage of their development. They are the exceptions, not the rule.

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beak croydon 05 Sep 21 10.52am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Ayew and Benteke are both yesterdays news, Neiether god enough for the first team, never mind JRS, i would hope both to be offloaded in the January window, and the only way to find out if JRS is ready is if you play him, he might thrive he may not. Certainly not God standard.
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croydon 05 Sep 21 10.52am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Ayew and Benteke are both yesterdays news, Neiether god enough for the first team, never mind JRS, i would hope both to be offloaded in the January window, and the only way to find out if JRS is ready is if you play him, he might thrive he may not.

Certainly not God standard.

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Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 05 Sep 21 12.44pm
Originally posted by NEILLO When Jes signed his contract with Palace it was on the understanding that he would be ' fast tracked ' into the first team squad. Obviously on the proviso that he would earn that selection. So far, so good. He's developing well and at a steady pace. He'll get his minutes, but the current squad is in a transition at the moment - new players, tactics and manager. Ayew has been playing out of position wide right where we know we have a requirement and maybe in time Jes will get a shot at that. His call up for England U20's is further recognition of his talent, but it's unfair to compare him with the likes of Rooney, Owen etc., who were truly outstanding players at that stage of their development. They are the exceptions, not the rule. I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace. But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.
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Originally posted by NEILLO

When Jes signed his contract with Palace it was on the understanding that he would be ' fast tracked ' into the first team squad. Obviously on the proviso that he would earn that selection.

So far, so good. He's developing well and at a steady pace.

I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace.

But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Sep 21 1.32pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace. But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses. I have every confidence in Vieira and his back-room team responsible for smoothing the transition from Academy to first team squad to decide when Rak-Sakyi will be ready for more regular appearances from the bench etc. The lad has had a small taster as sub in the Chelsea game which hopefully tells him how much more he needs to develop - a clever substitution in my book. Edited by doombear (05 Sep 2021 3.19pm)
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Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Sep 21 1.32pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace.

But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses.

I have every confidence in Vieira and his back-room team responsible for smoothing the transition from Academy to first team squad to decide when Rak-Sakyi will be ready for more regular appearances from the bench etc. The lad has had a small taster as sub in the Chelsea game which hopefully tells him how much more he needs to develop - a clever substitution in my book.

Edited by doombear (05 Sep 2021 3.19pm)

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Dubai Eagle 05 Sep 21 1.48pm
Especially over the Christmas period when games come thick & fast with very little time for 1st choice players to recover from injuries. Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace. But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses.
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05 Sep 21 1.48pm

Especially over the Christmas period when games come thick & fast with very little time for 1st choice players to recover from injuries.

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace.

But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 21 3.01pm
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle Especially over the Christmas period when games come thick & fast with very little time for 1st choice players to recover from injuries. Agreed, people who want to see Rak-Sakyi are pretty much going to get their wish sooner rather than later. An injury to either Wilf or Ayew now, or them just needing a rest and someone has to come in as cover. Olisse will likely take a while to fully come in to the squad too. I'm thinking Rak-Sakyi will come on as a sub in the next few games. We'll see if he's ready. I think he'll do OK, but wouldn't expect him to move the Earth. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 21 3.01pm

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

Especially over the Christmas period when games come thick & fast with very little time for 1st choice players to recover from injuries.

Agreed, people who want to see Rak-Sakyi are pretty much going to get their wish sooner rather than later. An injury to either Wilf or Ayew now, or them just needing a rest and someone has to come in as cover. Olisse will likely take a while to fully come in to the squad too. I'm thinking Rak-Sakyi will come on as a sub in the next few games. We'll see if he's ready. I think he'll do OK, but wouldn't expect him to move the Earth.

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Sep 21 3.25pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Agreed, people who want to see Rak-Sakyi are pretty much going to get their wish sooner rather than later. An injury to either Wilf or Ayew now, or them just needing a rest and someone has to come in as cover. Olisse will likely take a while to fully come in to the squad too. I'm thinking Rak-Sakyi will come on as a sub in the next few games. We'll see if he's ready. I think he'll do OK, but wouldn't expect him to move the Earth. Why? He was voted player of the Championship last year, presumably ahead of the likes of Guehi and Armstrong etc. Olise is currently training and I would expect him to be on the bench on Saturday or for Liverpool and likely to come off the bench before the likes of Rak-Sakyi (and I AM a Rak-Sakyi fan. It's just that Olise has proved himself to be a top Championship player whereas Rak-Sakyi is yet to prove himself in any of the men's professional leagues).
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Too far from Selhurst Park 05 Sep 21 3.25pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Agreed, people who want to see Rak-Sakyi are pretty much going to get their wish sooner rather than later. An injury to either Wilf or Ayew now, or them just needing a rest and someone has to come in as cover. Olisse will likely take a while to fully come in to the squad too. I'm thinking Rak-Sakyi will come on as a sub in the next few games. We'll see if he's ready. I think he'll do OK, but wouldn't expect him to move the Earth.

Why?
He was voted player of the Championship last year, presumably ahead of the likes of Guehi and Armstrong etc.

Olise is currently training and I would expect him to be on the bench on Saturday or for Liverpool and likely to come off the bench before the likes of Rak-Sakyi (and I AM a Rak-Sakyi fan. It's just that Olise has proved himself to be a top Championship player whereas Rak-Sakyi is yet to prove himself in any of the men's professional leagues).

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Sep 21 3.32pm
Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace. But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses. When I said '' exceptions '' I meant that those players could not be denied a first team place and they were definitely ready for first team football. I really don't see Rak Sakyi anywhere close to that level at the moment. With careful management I think he could play himself into some game time, maybe even a start....but not yet. Old, Ungifted and White
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Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Sep 21 3.32pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

I do understand the need to be careful about letting young players off the leash too early, especially this season at Palace.

But we won't know whether RakSak is an exception to the rule if he doesn't get an opportunity to prove it. Hopefully he will get more game time as the season progresses.

When I said '' exceptions '' I meant that those players could not be denied a first team place and they were definitely ready for first team football. I really don't see Rak Sakyi anywhere close to that level at the moment.

With careful management I think he could play himself into some game time, maybe even a start....but not yet.

Old, Ungifted and White

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 21 3.37pm
Originally posted by doombear Why? He was voted player of the Championship last year, presumably ahead of the likes of Guehi and Armstrong etc. Olise is currently training and I would expect him to be on the bench on Saturday or for Liverpool and likely to come off the bench before the likes of Rak-Sakyi (and I AM a Rak-Sakyi fan. It's just that Olise has proved himself to be a top Championship player whereas Rak-Sakyi is yet to prove himself in any of the men's professional leagues). Just from recent injuries - suspect he may start to get minutes soon. I also suspect that Rak-Sakyi will be more used to our system over the next couple of matches. Simply from the length of time spent training etc. I agree Olisse will be ahead of Rak-Sakyi in the pecking order. I suspect we'll see both sooner rather than later. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Sep 21 3.37pm

Originally posted by doombear

Why?
He was voted player of the Championship last year, presumably ahead of the likes of Guehi and Armstrong etc.

Just from recent injuries - suspect he may start to get minutes soon. I also suspect that Rak-Sakyi will be more used to our system over the next couple of matches. Simply from the length of time spent training etc. I agree Olisse will be ahead of Rak-Sakyi in the pecking order. I suspect we'll see both sooner rather than later.

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