So the monumental incompetence continues.

The drone, so called 'over the horizon' intelligence strike, they crowed about as killing IS as they ran out of Afghanistan ends up as a ten person civilian murder with mostly children as victims.

So lets get this right, they have god knows how many Americans trapped in Afghanistan and for revenge points for the gate bombing they make the situation much worse.

What about all the innocents who will have to suffer for the sheer incompetence of these people?

Apparently Biden says the buck stops with him....he usually says it just before he blames Trump and just about anything else for his administration's failures.

Still, no mean tweets I suppose.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2021 12.01am)

Awful

Having watched a few 9/11 related docs recently - bush set this whole machine in motion by effectively passing a motion through Congress that allowed the US to go after anyone or any country deemed to be harbouring terrorists - in other words as it turned out (once the technology was there) free reign on drone strikes, anywhere, anytime. 20,000 people have died as a result of that policy, for balance, accelerated and embraced by Obama. Clearly not all of those 20,000 were terrorists. That particular motion needs to be repealed. And fast.

Awful

Having watched a few 9/11 related docs recently - bush set this whole machine in motion by effectively passing a motion through Congress that allowed the US to go after anyone or any country deemed to be harbouring terrorists - in other words as it turned out (once the technology was there) free reign on drone strikes, anywhere, anytime. 20,000 people have died as a result of that policy, for balance, accelerated and embraced by Obama. Clearly not all of those 20,000 were terrorists. That particular motion needs to be repealed. And fast.

While I think the US and indeed the west were completely justified and compelled to go after IS and indeed not stop until Bin Laden was dead I think any criticisms after that are hard to criticise.

Nation building should never have been part of that.

Yes, the Taliban were part of what had to be punished, however essentially Afghanistan and Iraq were on the 'doable' list....especially Iraq.

When you look at where radical Islam exists it's in pakistan and Saudi. Pressure on Saudi has arguably been effective as IS are no friends of the house of Saud. With pakistan however, they are famously duplicitous and two faced as their intelligence agencies are effectively their own government and work with terror groups as an offshoot of the India/Kashmir conflict....In Afghanistan they were responsible for many an allied death.

The reason Iraq got it and they didn't was much more to do with the possible rather than a proportional response to anti western Islamic terrorism.

And the pakistani's have the bomb otherwise I think they would have been knocking on the gates of paradise.