How Important Is Our New Academy to Our Future?
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 Wilbraham413  04 Oct 21 12.02am |
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Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent? I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly.
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deleted 25  04 Oct 21 7.38pm |
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The more established or successful a team is probably equates to less chance for young players to break through though injuries can throw an opportunity ; if we did get relegated then arguably the academy becomes more important, if the club is run sensibly Chelsea seem to have the run of the best talent in South London so it’s good to offer competition. Being a level 1 - should make it easier to keep academy players
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 05 Oct 21 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wilbraham413
Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent? I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly. Right on all counts Wilbraham.
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| topcat Holmesdale / Surbiton 05 Oct 21 4.47pm |
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Academy 1 makes it easier to sign players and means that you can easily poach players from non Academy 1 clubs and makes it harder to have out own best academy players poached from other clubs. I don't agree with the EPPP but now it is there, we need to use it to our own advantage. It's vital for a London club as there are already 5 other Academy 1 clubs in London. It's expensive so it's surprising so many non PL clubs are on the list; Arsenal, Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Blackburn, Burnley, Brighton, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Derby County, Everton, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Newcastle United, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham and Wolves.
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| croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 05 Oct 21 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by topcat
Academy 1 makes it easier to sign players and means that you can easily poach players from non Academy 1 clubs and makes it harder to have out own best academy players poached from other clubs. I don't agree with the EPPP but now it is there, we need to use it to our own advantage. It's vital for a London club as there are already 5 other Academy 1 clubs in London. It's expensive so it's surprising so many non PL clubs are on the list; Arsenal, Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Blackburn, Burnley, Brighton, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Derby County, Everton, Fulham, Leeds United, Leicester City, Liverpool, Newcastle United, Manchester City, Manchester United, Middlesbrough, Norwich City, Nottingham Forest, Reading, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Tottenham, West Brom, West Ham and Wolves. Not long until the top 6 introduce the "super academy "then- to make the rest less lucrative- and attractive.
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| MrRobbo Purley 05 Oct 21 4.58pm |
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In theory yes. In practice, only time will tell. So many players seam to move around the academies (Eze as an example) before finding a home. Brentford have done away with their academy.... will be interesting to see if that's a better model in the long term
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 05 Oct 21 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by Wilbraham413
Can anyone educate me as to how our new academy works in terms of which young players do we have the advantage of signing? From what I understand, we should have an advantage signing young players in the South London area. Is this true? And now that we have a top level academy, it makes it more likely that we can retain local talent? I'm hoping that our new academy gives us a pipeline of good young players that other mid-tier clubs won't have. Like I would imagine South London would have a constant stream of good young talent. That makes me think that even if we have a terrible year, and get relegated, we should be able to rebound quickly. Man U poached one of our Academy scouts - I hope they won't nick too many local players. [Link]
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| Phil’s Barber Crowborough 05 Oct 21 7.22pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Man U poached one of our Academy scouts - I hope they won't nick too many local players. [Link] Indeed! Jarrett seemed to be the main man in terms of our youth recruitment and it was well publicised that he was pivotal in the recruitment of so many of the current U18 squad, which has been phenomenally successful. By poaching Jarrett, Man Utd clearly intend on cornering the South London market in terms of up and coming talent.
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Teddy Eagle  05 Oct 21 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
Indeed! Jarrett seemed to be the main man in terms of our youth recruitment and it was well publicised that he was pivotal in the recruitment of so many of the current U18 squad, which has been phenomenally successful. By poaching Jarrett, Man Utd clearly intend on cornering the South London market in terms of up and coming talent. Players aged 13-16 have to live within 90 minutes travelling time of their club - bet they’re keen on HS2.
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| Phil’s Barber Crowborough 05 Oct 21 8.53pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
Players aged 13-16 have to live within 90 minutes travelling time of their club - bet they’re keen on HS2. That is interesting to know Teddy, I wasn’t aware of that. Clearly though United know exactly what they are doing by poaching Jarrett from us. The reports at the time of his appointment for United all commented on how influential and successful Jarrett had been with our recruitment of our current U18 squad. Just reading some of the reports again it seems Jarrett had been with Palace for about ten years and was either Head of Academy recruitment or Assistant Head (dependent on which report you read) he was also the co-founder and director of football for Lambeth Tigers. Clearly hugely connected in London and the South and no doubt why United have appointed him as their lead scout for the ‘South of England’.
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| dreamwaverider London 06 Oct 21 2.16am |
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Very.
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| Stirlingsays 06 Oct 21 8.55am |
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Originally posted by Phil’s Barber
That is interesting to know Teddy, I wasn’t aware of that. Clearly though United know exactly what they are doing by poaching Jarrett from us. The reports at the time of his appointment for United all commented on how influential and successful Jarrett had been with our recruitment of our current U18 squad. Just reading some of the reports again it seems Jarrett had been with Palace for about ten years and was either Head of Academy recruitment or Assistant Head (dependent on which report you read) he was also the co-founder and director of football for Lambeth Tigers. Clearly hugely connected in London and the South and no doubt why United have appointed him as their lead scout for the ‘South of England’.
Hopefully effective plans in response are afoot. London isn't the domain of fecking Man U......fecking Beckham should have been a Spurs player. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Oct 2021 8.56am)
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