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BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.07pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

It is the left who think it ok for a man to proclaim he is a woman, or a woman to proclaim she is a man and to give them all sorts of 'rights' bascially because they maintain 'that is who I am' live with it. Not a big leap for a paedophile to argue along the same lines. If the left are daft enough to accept tthe former, they are are daft enough to accept the latter.

It's a big leap and the former has nothing to do with the latter. It's an insult to the dignity of people in a tough or confusing spot to imply that their problems are similar or equatable to them having sex with children. In any case I feel that I've posted something balanced (which rarely goes down well!) and doubt going back and forth can add much. We're all entitled to our view of course. Cheers.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

If you can stomach it....watch the video....of what I regard as the murder of that women. I won't post it here.

The reasonableness of all descriptions should be seen in the light of the actual evidence. A defence of this guy's actions....and he's been cleared, means that there was a defence to shoot everyone who entered that building.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 12.25pm)

Doesn't that imply that just anyone walking into a building could routinely be shot? It surely has to be put in the context of what was unfolding that day. I'm not saying that what happened was right, or a good outcome by any means. It was a tragedy, but the unfolding event clearly rightfully struck fear for their lives in politicians (and rightly so, since its fair to state that there may have been attempts on their lives if people had reached them) and were a huge security issue. Should you view what happened as deserving of jail time for the guy defending the politicians, I'd say that it's important to consider that it's almost impossible for a cop to get jailed for taking a life too. We can argue the rights and wrongs of that but on one level its clear to see why they would want it that way.

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

That people historically (and sometimes currently) see those 'changing sex' as perplexing or strange has little to do with adults having sex with children. It's just another way (following doing so to 'the left') to infer that a group of people are moral equivalents to child sex abusers. It speaks to a detachment from huge swaths of the population, the vast majority of whom hold the same view, left or right.

The point wasn't that many people on the left accept 'having sex with children', the point is that the only political activism for it exists on the left.

Like transgenderism it started out with very little support....and probably still has very little practical support amongst most of its rank and file, yet it is now policy.

Originally posted by BlueJay

On a wider scale, whether the church, childrens homes, grooming gangs, multiple institutions and governments of all political stripes (if anything most of these groups are conservative in nature, but i wouldn't suggest its 'accepted') sat by and failed this nation and its children for decades, as often did families when it perversely was more of a 'taboo' to be a victim of abuse than to be the perpetrator. That's the thing, if you listen to music from say the 60s, blurring the lines wasn't particularly deemed as crime of the century, but this certainly wasn't something confined to the left or right.

'the church, childrens homes, grooming gangs, multiple institutions and governments of all political stripes'...are 'if anything conservative in nature'? I regard that quite a stretch....well no actually I'd regard that as inaccurate (Islamic grooming gangs are all a form of Islamic social conservativism yet it's highly likely they all vote left).

If you think the social conservatism of the past failed children....something I think has some half truth to it....I regard the modern day as failing them far more harshly, especially boys.....child abuse in some cases by confusing them as to their gender and sexuality and plenty of activists (all left wing) pushing for and encouraging life altering procedures.

Originally posted by BlueJay


It's a running joke that several people around Tommy Robinson (someone who like him or loathe him clearly did his bit on shining a light on something authorities ignored) have been banged up for child abuse. They are not on 'the left'. Indeed there are most certainly fringe individuals and groups on the far right that hold unhealthy views in this very area (look and you shall find), just as you appear to infer that there are on the far left. It's kind of the nature of the beast, the extreme people hold extreme beliefs. There is however absolutely no indication that 99.9% of people find any of this acceptance regardless of their politics. It's one issue that unites rather than divides. Thankfully.

Let me make it clear I'm not on here saying that only left wing people engage in child sex or abuse.....actually I think you know that. I agree that most are abhorred by it. What I'm saying is that its political activism only exists on the left and that it's considered 'progressivism' in the same fashion that transgenderism was....indeed, the foundational texts that supported transgenderism also supported pedophilia.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 1.13pm)

 


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Originally posted by BlueJay

Doesn't that imply that just anyone walking into a building could routinely be shot? It surely has to be put in the context of what was unfolding that day. I'm not saying that what happened was right, or a good outcome by any means. It was a tragedy, but the unfolding event clearly rightfully struck fear for their lives in politicians (and rightly so, since its fair to state that there may have been attempts on their lives if people had reached them) and were a huge security issue. Should you view what happened as deserving of jail time for the guy defending the politicians, I'd say that it's important to consider that it's almost impossible for a cop to get jailed for taking a life too. We can argue the rights and wrongs of that but on one level its clear to see why they would want it that way.

The establishment decided to go out and bat for this guy for several reasons, some we would probably agree on and others obviously not so much.

Personally, I view it all as hypocrisy, especially after they all cried murder and jailed that cop for first degree murder over Floyd.

I wonder why that one was.....tribalism on multiple fronts.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Let me make it clear I'm not on here saying that only left wing people engage in child sex or abuse.....actually I think you know that. I agree that most are abhorred by it. What I'm saying is that its political activism only exists on the left and that it's considered 'progressivism' in the same fashion that transgenderism was....indeed, the foundational texts that supported transgenderism also supported pedophilia.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 1.13pm)

In trying to escape from every expanding conversations (busy day sorry!) all I will say that is that it's simply untrue that "its political activism only exists on the left". As stated there are far right groups and individuals that have very unhealthy views in this regard too. None of the societal changes you state infer any encouragement of, road to, or link to pedophilia, it's just a strategy to demonise groups or political persuasions you dislike. This isn't really a conversation that's going anywhere, so maybe it's best to leave it there.


 

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BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 1.39pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The establishment decided to go out and bat for this guy for several reasons, some we would probably agree on and others obviously not so much.

It would've been against their own interests and safety not to, and in a repeat situation would make those protecting them more inclined to do nothing.

We can certainly say that politicians should not value their lives above those they believe are intending to endanger them, but I doubt that's true of anyone, and it's certainly not true of politicians.


Edited by BlueJay (21 Oct 2021 1.40pm)

 

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Originally posted by BlueJay

In trying to escape from every expanding conversations (busy day sorry!) all I will say that is that it's simply untrue that "its political activism only exists on the left". As stated there are far right groups and individuals that have very unhealthy views in this regard too. None of the societal changes you state infer any encouragement of, road to, or link to pedophilia, it's just a strategy to demonise groups or political persuasions you dislike. This isn't really a conversation that's going anywhere, so maybe it's best to leave it there.

In the limited case you mention there was no activism used to promote child sex. I certainly know of no group on the right, 'far' or otherwise that promotes 'unhealthy views' regarding child sex.

So I'm afraid the statement that the only political activism for it exists on the left is in fact true.....Both documentation and video exists on that.

 


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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 21 Oct 21 1.59pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

I see that the North Londoner has been charged with murder & other terror activities.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 21 Oct 21 2.11pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

I see that the North Londoner has been charged with murder & other terror activities.

Well deserved. Took a life, ruined others, wasted his own.

 

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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Isn’t domestic terrorism inevitable in a country with more guns than people?

Sure, but it should be 50/50.

Right wing terrorists commit far more acts, costing far more lives than left wing terrorists. This is a fact. The question is why.

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The constitution and separation occurred precisely because of tyranny Mainey. You don't seem to understand that it specifically concentrates on freedoms and speech is in there on the very first amendment and that's obviously in response to an environment where it was restricted.

There was no incitement of violence on January 6th, that's you living in your fantasy world. But you seem to forget the senseless murder of a women by the security forces....you guys whitewashed that out.

Just like you washed out 18 months of rioting by your friends in blm and antifa. You don't get away with that Mainey it's going to be raised everytime.

As for how the secession process goes, why should I have an opinion on that? I just want it to be peaceful and allow the two sides to live how they want. That could be worked out....ask your Democrat friends as 40 percent of them want that as well.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Oct 2021 8.00am)

You must be joking here. At Trump's rally on Jan 6th.

Rudy "trial by combat!"
Trump "fight like hell or you wont have a country anymore!"
Mo Brooks "today is the day american patriots start kicking ass and taking names!"

Whip up a bunch of idiots into a frenzy and unleash them on the capitol, and you get predictable results. Saying the violence was not incited is absolute nonsense.

I dont whitetash ANTIFA and BLM riots. Protests turned into looting rampages.

Not understanding why black people in America might want to protest, is quite silly though. Crossing the line into looting and rampaging is wrong of course.

 


Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Sure, but it should be 50/50.

Right wing terrorists commit far more acts, costing far more lives than left wing terrorists. This is a fact. The question is why.

Because America is a violent place where violent people have access to guns?

 

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