Yes, I was going to ask can any of them drive , pick fruit and veg-even rotting fruit, carve up a pig, wipe an old persons bottom, or serve ale in Brexit Tims Witherspoons? If the answer is yes to any of the above, get them on the next plane over, and like Sir Geoffrey and his Carribean jaunt, no need to isolate in a crummy hotel room! The more the merrier, especially if we want pigs in blankets( maybe not) and turkey this christmas!

Nothing to do with lefty/righty, just to do with a shortage of workers! Im not adverse to a centre of the road government, lab or CON, if they run the country without nicking all the money! The righties have been CONned big time, when interest rates go up they are going to be moaning, and no doubt blaming everyone else but the CONS, and themselves for falling in love with bungle!

I don't usually bother to respond to you but since I started the thread I feel obliged in this case.

Of course increasing population is the primary driver in man made environmental issues. To suggest otherwise is potty.

There is no doom and gloom, only reality. As we know, you have no grasp of that.

We need to prepare for the inevitable by stopping migrants entering Europe. They don't migrate out of necessity in many instances. That is another one of your fantasies.

Brexit has nothing to do with it. It will have no bearing on any agreement that is made in future, and no effect on how we defend the borders of Britain.
This is not some medieval siege. We have the means to deter migrants without any effect on the supply of resources.

Like so much else in this world, the key to any understanding of a situation is about what is not being said as opposed to what is.

And I am noticing a genuine lack of voices suggesting these 'migrants' are allowed into Poland.

Suspect that many on the Left are looking to sit this one out. And the EU, for once, seemingly showing some balls.

We cannot feed ourselves. There is already the aroma of a threat to use our need to import food as a political weapon. How much more so if we start to play hard ball with migrants and dump them all back on French soil?

Economic migrants exist. If their home economies were doing better they wouldn't.

If you think Brexit hasn't made a bad situation worse, and potentially much worse, then you are living in cloud-cuckoo-land.

To suggest anything other than the industrial revolution and the consequential burning of fossil fuels is the primary cause is what is "potty". Increased population only exacerbates it because they too burn fossil fuels.

The reality is not only that we have a problem. It's also that you don't offer any kind of workable solution. You only offer words that have no real meaning. The idea that we must "prepare for the inevitable by stopping migrants entering Europe" is a prime example of that. What do you expect? Armed vigilantes patrolling every beach, day and night? Gun boats offshore sinking incoming migrant craft? Unless we get the co-operation of our nearest neighbours, this simply wouldn't work even if it was accepted by the people.

You seem to think we have the means to deter migrants. If it was that easy, it would already be done.

We certainly need to deter the illegals, but the only deterrent that will work is that they see a better opportunity at home. Trying to frighten them away is a slippery slope leading to an even bigger problem.