Lewis Hamilton
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 Superhorns3  Harpdenden 17 Nov 21 3.41pm |
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There is no doubt Hamilton is one of the best ever . The stats back it up. Where he stands with the other greats who didn’t have all the technology drivers and cars have now is a matter of opinion.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Nov 21 5.58pm |
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Hamilton has nothing on this guy (except the odd World Championship). [Link]
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grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 18 Nov 21 3.54am |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
Edited by Helmet46 (17 Nov 2021 7.55am)
He went wheel to wheel with the likes of Senna in an awful car. Rosberg did not outperform him at all yes he scored more points and you are comparing a guy who had been retired for years was what 43 to some one who had been at the team since it first started in his prime years also look at the results not the points also Schu had a lot of mechanical issues. You really do need to learn your history look up about Mercedes Brawn has come out and been very clear about how Schu was the main reason the Mercedes team became what it did and that he played the long game for developing the car for the new regulations which LH walked into he did nothing. If LH went to the current Williams team and won a race as you state I would give him credit but it wont ever happen the same with all the talk about LH going on about wanting to go to Ferrari he could of many times but wont because they are not going to win him the Championship which is why he stayed its the easy option.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 18 Nov 21 6.04am |
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I would point out that Senna disputed the Bennetons 'rapid increase in performance' was within the rules in 1994. He wanted Williams to launch an investigation with the FIA, but this issues was brought to an abrupt end by Senna's death. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (18 Nov 2021 6.08am)
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| The Dolphin 18 Nov 21 5.12pm |
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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer
He's a brilliant, talented and highly polished driver of F1 cars. No question. What grates on a lot of folk, me included I'm afraid, is that he has an unfortunate manner and attitude which makes him appear arrogant, insincere and, as a consequence, unpopular. I Hear hear!!
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| Apollofuzz On the edge of reason 18 Nov 21 5.56pm |
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If you are an F1 fan check out the documentary series "Drive to Survive" on Netflix
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 18 Nov 21 7.05pm |
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Originally posted by Apollofuzz
If you are an F1 fan check out the documentary series "Drive to Survive" on Netflix
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| Crazy_Eagle South London 18 Nov 21 7.20pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
The drivers rivalry has def been made more than it is for entertainment. E.g. There was no problem between Sainz and Norris at McLaren (I know someone at McLaren) - but it's still a very enjoyable watch with good BTS - and has brought in a whole load of fans.
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| Spiderman Horsham 18 Nov 21 7.20pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
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| Helmet46 Croydon 18 Nov 21 7.51pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
He went wheel to wheel with the likes of Senna in an awful car. Rosberg did not outperform him at all yes he scored more points and you are comparing a guy who had been retired for years was what 43 to some one who had been at the team since it first started in his prime years also look at the results not the points also Schu had a lot of mechanical issues. You really do need to learn your history look up about Mercedes Brawn has come out and been very clear about how Schu was the main reason the Mercedes team became what it did and that he played the long game for developing the car for the new regulations which LH walked into he did nothing. If LH went to the current Williams team and won a race as you state I would give him credit but it wont ever happen the same with all the talk about LH going on about wanting to go to Ferrari he could of many times but wont because they are not going to win him the Championship which is why he stayed its the easy option. Lol you wouldn’t give him credit as you seem so blinded by your dislike of him. You make too many excuses and keep changing the narrative. If NR scored more points, more podiums, more fastest laps and out qualified him - he probably outperformed him. But I accept the age and retirement thing and also that he had a few more DNF’s. But outperform him he did - across 3 seasons. I wouldn’t go to a team that wouldn’t win me the title either - it’s kind of the point of it!!! But if I was a team manager I wouldn’t hire a driver that didn’t stand a chance of winning it either as, guess what, that’s the point as well. Would you go and work for an uncompetitive company just so some random bloke on the internet can then say ‘you’re not over-rated’ when all the top companies have been happy to employ you because you’re probably the best? He’s won 7 titles - that’s his legacy. Edited by Helmet46 (19 Nov 2021 6.51am)
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| MrRobbo Purley 19 Nov 21 12.09pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
I would bother, its a good watch.
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| grumpymort US/Thailand/UK 19 Nov 21 2.29pm |
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Originally posted by Helmet46
Lol you wouldn’t give him credit as you seem so blinded by your dislike of him. You make too many excuses and keep changing the narrative. If NR scored more points, more podiums, more fastest laps and out qualified him - he probably outperformed him. But I accept the age and retirement thing and also that he had a few more DNF’s. But outperform him he did - across 3 seasons. I wouldn’t go to a team that wouldn’t win me the title either - it’s kind of the point of it!!! But if I was a team manager I wouldn’t hire a driver that didn’t stand a chance of winning it either as, guess what, that’s the point as well. Would you go and work for an uncompetitive company just so some random bloke on the internet can then say ‘you’re not over-rated’ when all the top companies have been happy to employ you because you’re probably the best? He’s won 7 titles - that’s his legacy. Edited by Helmet46 (19 Nov 2021 6.51am)
Rosberg the car was built for him he was there to when it was built also he was in his prime at the time. You then have a driver who was not in his prime had been retired for years the cars was nothing like the ones when he drove. He came into the team to develop the team and the car for the later regulation changes so it was a plan for multi years also they wanted at the time for marketing all German line up. Regarding points etc yes Rosberg scored more points which isnt hard when your team mate keeps DNF due to mechanical issues but look at the big picture in an awful car who managed to drag out the best results this shows true drivers not all about the car. LH yes the first season you could understand him not being up to par with Rosberg but that was not the season he lost to him the drivers title. No point even commenting on the rest as already said you have no clue what you are talking about regarding the sport and how it works also drivers mentalities
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