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Mathers 05 Dec 21 6.05pm
Originally posted by CT Charlie Radical idea. I'd experiment with Ayew as a replacement for McArthur while he's out. At the moment, Ayew's strength is his defensive effort. He's not as fit as Macca, but he would press more effectively than our other midfielders, except for Gallagher, and it would free Gallagher to play more as he did when paired with Macca. Sorry but that idea is stupid. Why try and crowbar Ayew into the team? He’s a 30yo forward who isn’t up to it his job which is either scoring or assisting. You’d like to reinvent him as a central midfielder at the expense of a younger, better midfielder like Hughes or Riedewald? If he isn’t performing then he’s dropped. No need to overcomplicate a very simple decision.
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Mathers

05 Dec 21 6.05pm

Originally posted by CT Charlie

Radical idea. I'd experiment with Ayew as a replacement for McArthur while he's out. At the moment, Ayew's strength is his defensive effort. He's not as fit as Macca, but he would press more effectively than our other midfielders, except for Gallagher, and it would free Gallagher to play more as he did when paired with Macca.

Sorry but that idea is stupid. Why try and crowbar Ayew into the team? He’s a 30yo forward who isn’t up to it his job which is either scoring or assisting. You’d like to reinvent him as a central midfielder at the expense of a younger, better midfielder like Hughes or Riedewald? If he isn’t performing then he’s dropped. No need to overcomplicate a very simple decision.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Dec 21 6.07pm
Originally posted by Petts Wood Eagle Ayew gets all flack for not scoring, but its his close control and ability to win fouls which is why he is played. Those fouls he draws, buys us recovery time. In my opinion it's Wilf who should be coming in for the flack, moaning and groaning at the team for not passing to him. When he does get it he puts his foot on top of the ball, giving defenders time to swarm around him and lose possession. I would like to know the stats between him and Ayew, as to who is most beneficial on the pitch. Against Leeds Ayew was hacked down outside their box when on a good promising attack with others around him, if people actually care to look he is constantly fouled because he puts defending plyers under huge pressure, the sad fact is that a free kick is nothing as promising as a run into the enemies penalty box which is what he was attempting to do, also, we nicely forget the penalty that Clatterballs thought was a dive and one that divided everyone watching ...clatterballs just loves to always deny us ...remembering his performance against us in that bloody FA cup final. Zaha often fails to release the ball when in good positions to do so but to criticise him really is silly when considering the amount of times he kisses the turf. We have three players in the top ten most fouled ... [Link] Edited by Tickled pink (05 Dec 2021 6.19pm)
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Cornwall 05 Dec 21 6.07pm

Originally posted by Petts Wood Eagle

Ayew gets all flack for not scoring, but its his close control and ability to win fouls which is why he is played.

Those fouls he draws, buys us recovery time.

In my opinion it's Wilf who should be coming in for the flack, moaning and groaning at the team for not passing to him.
When he does get it he puts his foot on top of the ball, giving defenders time to swarm around him and lose possession.

I would like to know the stats between him and Ayew, as to who is most beneficial on the pitch.

Against Leeds Ayew was hacked down outside their box when on a good promising attack with others around him, if people actually care to look he is constantly fouled because he puts defending plyers under huge pressure, the sad fact is that a free kick is nothing as promising as a run into the enemies penalty box which is what he was attempting to do, also, we nicely forget the penalty that Clatterballs thought was a dive and one that divided everyone watching ...clatterballs just loves to always deny us ...remembering his performance against us in that bloody FA cup final.
Zaha often fails to release the ball when in good positions to do so but to criticise him really is silly when considering the amount of times he kisses the turf.

We have three players in the top ten most fouled ...

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Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Dec 21 6.23pm
Originally posted by Mathers Sorry but that idea is stupid. Why try and crowbar Ayew into the team? He’s a 30yo forward who isn’t up to it his job which is either scoring or assisting. You’d like to reinvent him as a central midfielder at the expense of a younger, better midfielder like Hughes or Riedewald? If he isn’t performing then he’s dropped. No need to overcomplicate a very simple decision. As far as I'm concerned he always performs and always will, cannot understand the hate at all.
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Cornwall 05 Dec 21 6.23pm

Originally posted by Mathers

Sorry but that idea is stupid. Why try and crowbar Ayew into the team? He’s a 30yo forward who isn’t up to it his job which is either scoring or assisting. You’d like to reinvent him as a central midfielder at the expense of a younger, better midfielder like Hughes or Riedewald? If he isn’t performing then he’s dropped. No need to overcomplicate a very simple decision.

As far as I'm concerned he always performs and always will, cannot understand the hate at all.

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Foxy0208 Blackpool 05 Dec 21 6.38pm
He plays in a forward position therefore the expectation is he should get goals. His other contributions to the team get ignored. PV, Roy, both apparently idiots for continually selecting him. He cost us pennies and has delivered ever since. Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.
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Foxy0208

Blackpool 05 Dec 21 6.38pm

He plays in a forward position therefore the expectation is he should get goals.

His other contributions to the team get ignored.

PV, Roy, both apparently idiots for continually selecting him.

He cost us pennies and has delivered ever since.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

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Nubes London 05 Dec 21 6.38pm
He is a conundrum??? He wins fouls constantly and relieves the pressure on us consistently. But he can’t flipping score or be the difference when it matters. It is a tricky one!
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Nubes

London 05 Dec 21 6.38pm

He is a conundrum???

He wins fouls constantly and relieves the pressure on us consistently.

But he can’t flipping score or be the difference when it matters.

It is a tricky one!

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Dec 21 6.54pm
Originally posted by CT Charlie Radical idea. I'd experiment with Ayew as a replacement for McArthur while he's out. At the moment, Ayew's strength is his defensive effort. He's not as fit as Macca, but he would press more effectively than our other midfielders, except for Gallagher, and it would free Gallagher to play more as he did when paired with Macca. That is the role Hughes should be playing. Thought he should have replaced Schlupp today to get more playing time
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Spiderman

Horsham 05 Dec 21 6.54pm

Originally posted by CT Charlie

That is the role Hughes should be playing. Thought he should have replaced Schlupp today to get more playing time

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ATL Eagle Atlanta 05 Dec 21 7.06pm
Ayew. Tricky one. PROS: He works hard. He runs at teams. He draws fouls. CONS: He screws up at key moments. He doesn't pass early.
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ATL Eagle

Atlanta 05 Dec 21 7.06pm

Ayew. Tricky one.
PROS: He works hard. He runs at teams. He draws fouls.
CONS: He screws up at key moments. He doesn't pass early.

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Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Dec 21 7.38pm
Originally posted by ATL Eagle Ayew. Tricky one. PROS: He works hard. He runs at teams. He draws fouls. CONS: He screws up at key moments. He doesn't pass early. We have been awful with dead ball situations as a whole for some time, it's not Ayew's fault alone that we fail in this area.
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Tickled pink

Cornwall 05 Dec 21 7.38pm

Originally posted by ATL Eagle

Ayew. Tricky one.
PROS: He works hard. He runs at teams. He draws fouls.
CONS: He screws up at key moments. He doesn't pass early.

We have been awful with dead ball situations as a whole for some time, it's not Ayew's fault alone that we fail in this area.

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sueagle2012 05 Dec 21 7.50pm
Originally posted by CT Charlie Radical idea. I'd experiment with Ayew as a replacement for McArthur while he's out. At the moment, Ayew's strength is his defensive effort. He's not as fit as Macca, but he would press more effectively than our other midfielders, except for Gallagher, and it would free Gallagher to play more as he did when paired with Macca. I agree completely. Ayew is comfortable playing centrally as he has played CF and Schlupp ( or Edouard) would be better suited playing on the left with Zaha on the right. Ayew can tackle and run with the ball but his weakness is decision making and passing accurately
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sueagle2012

05 Dec 21 7.50pm

Originally posted by CT Charlie

I agree completely. Ayew is comfortable playing centrally as he has played CF and Schlupp ( or Edouard) would be better suited playing on the left with Zaha on the right.

Ayew can tackle and run with the ball but his weakness is decision making and passing accurately

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Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Dec 21 8.05pm
Originally posted by Foxy0208 He plays in a forward position therefore the expectation is he should get goals. His other contributions to the team get ignored. PV, Roy, both apparently idiots for continually selecting him. He cost us pennies and has delivered ever since. I wonder how many goals and assists he could've had if the opposition hadn't panicked and hacked him down ..exactly the same for Zaha of course.
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Cornwall 05 Dec 21 8.05pm

Originally posted by Foxy0208

He plays in a forward position therefore the expectation is he should get goals.

His other contributions to the team get ignored.

PV, Roy, both apparently idiots for continually selecting him.

He cost us pennies and has delivered ever since.

I wonder how many goals and assists he could've had if the opposition hadn't panicked and hacked him down ..exactly the same for Zaha of course.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 05 Dec 21 8.19pm
Originally posted by Fatherken the forwards do not get proper service now so why would putting Edouard up front make any difference ? because he is better than Benteke in all areas “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzarote 05 Dec 21 8.19pm

Originally posted by Fatherken

the forwards do not get proper service now so why would putting Edouard up front make any difference ?

because he is better than Benteke in all areas

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Tickled pink Cornwall 05 Dec 21 8.40pm
...and like the penalty shout against Villa how many times do the officials do nothing and turn their backs on them resulting in fouls not being registered, this incident could've been viewed very differently from Clattenburg's considering the comments afterwards, VAR is good for picking up the obvious incidents which are missed by the officials on the pitch but it fails miserably with clever niggles and shoves which have always been very difficult to decipher and which are now being perfected because of VAR.
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Cornwall 05 Dec 21 8.40pm

...and like the penalty shout against Villa how many times do the officials do nothing and turn their backs on them resulting in fouls not being registered, this incident could've been viewed very differently from Clattenburg's considering the comments afterwards, VAR is good for picking up the obvious incidents which are missed by the officials on the pitch but it fails miserably with clever niggles and shoves which have always been very difficult to decipher and which are now being perfected because of VAR.

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