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ambrose7 Croydon 06 Jan 22 6.53pm
The thing that the Wilf saga badly exposes is our lack of leadership. It's been mentioned on here that McArthur would have straightened him out and you just don't see Luka, Ward, even the next senior pros like Benteke getting him by the scruff and getting him in line. February will be interesting. Olise and Ayew are making good claims to play on the right, Edouard is making a good claim to play on the left and Eze will theoretically push for more game time as he gets stronger. For the first time in his Palace career, Zaha isn't guaranteed a spot and he's got 18 months on his contract. In the summer there has to be an extend/sell/lose for free decision. Big 6 months coming up in influencing which way that goes. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.
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ambrose7

Croydon 06 Jan 22 6.53pm

The thing that the Wilf saga badly exposes is our lack of leadership. It's been mentioned on here that McArthur would have straightened him out and you just don't see Luka, Ward, even the next senior pros like Benteke getting him by the scruff and getting him in line.

February will be interesting. Olise and Ayew are making good claims to play on the right, Edouard is making a good claim to play on the left and Eze will theoretically push for more game time as he gets stronger. For the first time in his Palace career, Zaha isn't guaranteed a spot and he's got 18 months on his contract.

In the summer there has to be an extend/sell/lose for free decision. Big 6 months coming up in influencing which way that goes.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 6.57pm
Just get rid now 10/15m and move on �That�s a joke son, I say, that�s a joke.� �Nice boy, but he�s sharp as a throw pillow.� �He�s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent� � �Son� I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.�__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 6.57pm

Just get rid now 10/15m and move on

�That�s a joke son, I say, that�s a joke.� �Nice boy, but he�s sharp as a throw pillow.� �He�s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent� � �Son� I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.�__ Forhorn Leghorn

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Painter Croydon 06 Jan 22 8.08pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Just get rid now 10/15m and move on You now want to get rid of Zaha, along with Benteke, Luca and Mateta. Move on, where?
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Painter

Croydon 06 Jan 22 8.08pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Just get rid now 10/15m and move on

You now want to get rid of Zaha, along with Benteke, Luca and Mateta.

Move on, where?

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Daddyorc Atlantic Highlands, NJ 06 Jan 22 8.14pm
Totally agree with this. He was dominant in a couple of games this year (don't say he disappears, as almost every player doesn't inspire every week), like the first Spurs game, and Man City. I hate when he gets petulant too, but he's still a game changer. There's a reason why when he gets the ball and isn't double or triple teamed, the fans all stand up in their seats. Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow This thread is mental - we've got some absolute pant-wetters as fans. The talk of Wilf 'never being that good' or not being good enough now is demonstrably untrue - to provide some objective figures; - Best shot conversion rate in our squad and our 2nd top scorer - Progressive dribbling averaging 133 yards per 90, which is more than the vast majority of wingers in the division. Ayew (who we'd all agree is in the form of his life) is averaging 144 yards per 90. - 22 chances created from open play; most in the squad On what planet is statistically our best finisher and best chance creator not good enough to play? The Ayew point is also telling in terms of expectation; he's not scoring or creating as much as Wilf, but we all agree he's been superb... Wilf is measured by a different standard. Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (06 Jan 2022 5.32pm)
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Daddyorc

Atlantic Highlands, NJ 06 Jan 22 8.14pm

Totally agree with this. He was dominant in a couple of games this year (don't say he disappears, as almost every player doesn't inspire every week), like the first Spurs game, and Man City. I hate when he gets petulant too, but he's still a game changer. There's a reason why when he gets the ball and isn't double or triple teamed, the fans all stand up in their seats.

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

This thread is mental - we've got some absolute pant-wetters as fans.

The talk of Wilf 'never being that good' or not being good enough now is demonstrably untrue - to provide some objective figures;

- Best shot conversion rate in our squad and our 2nd top scorer

- Progressive dribbling averaging 133 yards per 90, which is more than the vast majority of wingers in the division. Ayew (who we'd all agree is in the form of his life) is averaging 144 yards per 90.

- 22 chances created from open play; most in the squad

On what planet is statistically our best finisher and best chance creator not good enough to play?

The Ayew point is also telling in terms of expectation; he's not scoring or creating as much as Wilf, but we all agree he's been superb... Wilf is measured by a different standard.

Edited by EverybodyDannsNow (06 Jan 2022 5.32pm)

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 8.17pm
Originally posted by Painter You now want to get rid of Zaha, along with Benteke, Luca and Mateta. Move on, where? i didn't want to get of Mateta, the other Three yes for business sense, contract running out, all about 30, its not rocket science 25m for the lot is better than nothing next year �That�s a joke son, I say, that�s a joke.� �Nice boy, but he�s sharp as a throw pillow.� �He�s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent� � �Son� I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.�__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 8.17pm

Originally posted by Painter

You now want to get rid of Zaha, along with Benteke, Luca and Mateta.

Move on, where?

i didn't want to get of Mateta, the other Three yes for business sense, contract running out, all about 30, its not rocket science 25m for the lot is better than nothing next year

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Vaibow vancouver/croydon 06 Jan 22 8.37pm
Quite simple really, do we need zaha in the starting 11 in terms of getting to where we want to go or staying away from relegation. If he went this January, would it ruin our season - no. It would force the clubs hand to replace, play others and stick with it. As others have said, we have replacements. This allows them til May to gain experience, step up and claim the spot theirs. Then this summer we will have a clearer picture of where we need to invest etc. Would it be more fun, better to have him as an option - totally. Personally, for me, I would tell him he can go this summer - and make it public too - he can then play for an extension, or a new club. That hopefully gets a better performance out of him and a better sell on fee. We have to realize the zaha clock is ticking and we need tog et the best out of him, in this limited time. This was once a quality forum....
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Vaibow

vancouver/croydon 06 Jan 22 8.37pm

Quite simple really, do we need zaha in the starting 11 in terms of getting to where we want to go or staying away from relegation.

If he went this January, would it ruin our season - no. It would force the clubs hand to replace, play others and stick with it.

As others have said, we have replacements. This allows them til May to gain experience, step up and claim the spot theirs.

Then this summer we will have a clearer picture of where we need to invest etc.

Would it be more fun, better to have him as an option - totally.

Personally, for me, I would tell him he can go this summer - and make it public too - he can then play for an extension, or a new club.

That hopefully gets a better performance out of him and a better sell on fee.

We have to realize the zaha clock is ticking and we need tog et the best out of him, in this limited time.

This was once a quality forum....

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Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 8.52pm
Originally posted by Vaibow Quite simple really, do we need zaha in the starting 11 in terms of getting to where we want to go or staying away from relegation. If he went this January, would it ruin our season - no. It would force the clubs hand to replace, play others and stick with it. As others have said, we have replacements. This allows them til May to gain experience, step up and claim the spot theirs. Then this summer we will have a clearer picture of where we need to invest etc. Would it be more fun, better to have him as an option - totally. Personally, for me, I would tell him he can go this summer - and make it public too - he can then play for an extension, or a new club. That hopefully gets a better performance out of him and a better sell on fee. We have to realize the zaha clock is ticking and we need tog et the best out of him, in this limited time. The best out of him is over, he wont get in the starting 11 next season, he has lost his pace, slows the attack down and is uncontrollable on the pitch, offload him now, �That�s a joke son, I say, that�s a joke.� �Nice boy, but he�s sharp as a throw pillow.� �He�s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent� � �Son� I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.�__ Forhorn Leghorn
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Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 06 Jan 22 8.52pm

Originally posted by Vaibow