Well, you and everyone else won't be vaccinated for that much longer and this rather strange way of viewing the world will be all very temporary.

Viewing the world as an interdependent entity, where an individual's decisions impact everyone else, where health services are stretched to breaking point, so need protection from the selfish isn't the least strange.

What's strange is how some people refuse to acknowledge this.

This will last as long as it needs to last. The expectation being that once herd immunity is established we will all be offered annual covid vaccinations alongside the flu one. We can then ignore those who refused to participate in the national effort. Ignore, but never forget.

If it was down to me, I would make it a legitimate reason for employers to discriminate when reviewing job applications. If an applicant had refused the Covid vaccine, without a medical exemption, then they would likely do so again should a future pandemic occur, thus risking being off work more frequently and threatening the welfare of others. Everything else being equal I would rather employ someone who demonstrates responsibility by being vaccinated than someone who doesn't. So I think it's a reasonable question to ask.

Well, it's great that feck all is down to you isn't it.

Because if things were down to me, little old you wouldn't be too chuffed about stuff either.

As far as I'm aware there has been no change to legislation over vaccination and employment.

When it comes to tribunals I imagine in the current atmosphere that care-homes would be seen more favourably in this matter over other jobs.....obviously not employing someone being far easier to muddy than cutting current staff.

I would imagine that this isn't an area that government would wish to dip its toes into.....as the lawyers would have a field day.

Authoritarian fantasists can dream whatever dreams they wish....unless a virus or variant turns up that worries government considerably more than the strongest versions of covid then they are unlikely to get their wish.....they should have learnt something from the recent Tory rebellion....Government MPs are obviously not happy with the route that he so obviously desires.

It shows up all the waffle they waffled over the NHS for what it is....because such a requirement would see very important staff, who can't just be replaced, sacked and that....in my view, that would not only be idiotic but disastrous.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jan 2022 11.50pm)

My wife is a nurse on a cardiac ward in a large hospital so she isn't on the front line of critical care. Last week they admitted a patient to her ward who hadn't been vaccinated but who had contracted covid on top of the existing heart problems resulting in all of the nurses on that ward catching it and now having to self isolate.

Wifey has had all three vaccinations but is still quite badly ill although not ill enough for hospitalisations thank goodness so the unvaccinated are affecting others

This is because the vaccines are useless for delta and omicron read the research Pfizer and Moderna both are the highest rated offer some protection for upto 30 days only and then those people who had those boosts get infected end up getting very ill not the case for people who was not vaccinated almost all of them have reported it as like a cold (again the extreme case will be people with other health issues)

Check out the nice study by the danes name is below it shows this but if you do read it dont do like a lot of people here read the conclusion which shows the opposite of what the data does raw data is what is important not words.

Vaccine effectiveness against SARS-CoV-2 infection with the Omicron or Delta variants following a two-dose or booster BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 vaccination series