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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 6.28pm
Originally posted by W12 You are the original “hatchling” Literally born yesterday. Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life. I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light. I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut. One of the things I learned early in my business career was never to try to bullsht a bullshtter. There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 6.28pm

Originally posted by W12

You are the original “hatchling” Literally born yesterday.

Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life.

I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light.

I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut.

One of the things I learned early in my business career was never to try to bullsh*t a bullsh*tter.

There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Feb 22 6.32pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life. I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light. I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut. One of the things I learned early in my business career was never to try to bullsht a bullshtter. There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades. So, no BS being spread by PRO-vaxxers, lockdown & leavers then? I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold, When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul. [Link]
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On The Road To Hell & Alicante 03 Feb 22 6.32pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life.

I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light.

I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut.

One of the things I learned early in my business career was never to try to bullsh*t a bullsh*tter.

There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades.

So, no BS being spread by PRO-vaxxers, lockdown & leavers then?

I'm a blind man, i'm a blind man, now my room is cold,
When a blind man cries, Lord, he feels it from his soul.
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Stirlingsays 03 Feb 22 6.58pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life. I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light. I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut. One of the things I learned early in my business career was *never to try to bullsht a bullshtter*. There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades. Rare bit of self reflection there. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Feb 22 6.58pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Hardly. I am 77 and seen most things in my life.

I was also involved for most of it in sales and marketing, so know how to present things in their best light.

I can also recognise bs with my eyes shut.

One of the things I learned early in my business career was never to try to bullsh*t a bullsh*tter.

There is a great deal of bs being spread around by the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown brigades.

Rare bit of self reflection there.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 7.00pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 So, no BS being spread by PRO-vaxxers, lockdown & leavers then? I can only speak for myself. I don't see any. Not on those subjects anyway. Whereas I see nothing but bs from the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown advocates. The latter all seem to hold their views solely as a consequence of a political obsession. I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace. We, of course, know the truth. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 7.00pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

So, no BS being spread by PRO-vaxxers, lockdown & leavers then?

I can only speak for myself. I don't see any. Not on those subjects anyway. Whereas I see nothing but bs from the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown advocates. The latter all seem to hold their views solely as a consequence of a political obsession.

I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace.

We, of course, know the truth.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Feb 22 7.08pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Nothing to do with the above, that's for sure. I know what this thread is about, but we have drifted off-topic. I am talking about international trade. International trade is about selling, and selling is about influencing minds. In the modern arena, it is about giving the appearance of being green, woke, virtuous or any other quality in order to attract consumers with disposable income. Mostly the young and gullible (and a few old fools). This in itself has become the stuff of dystopian novels, and that is without mentioning the obvious link between business and political ambition. Anyone with enough money and power can influence or even bypass democracy to perpetuate an environment that benefits their ambitions. The very same people who feed us the woke narrative. The Rape gang situation is related to this because politicians put economics, Asian votes and their fear of the so called Right Wing before the welfare of the invisible victims. It just doesn't fit with the melting pot world fantasy that they want us to buy into.
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03 Feb 22 7.08pm

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing to do with the above, that's for sure.

I know what this thread is about, but we have drifted off-topic.

I am talking about international trade.

International trade is about selling, and selling is about influencing minds. In the modern arena, it is about giving the appearance of being green, woke, virtuous or any other quality in order to attract consumers with disposable income. Mostly the young and gullible (and a few old fools).
This in itself has become the stuff of dystopian novels, and that is without mentioning the obvious link between business and political ambition. Anyone with enough money and power can influence or even bypass democracy to perpetuate an environment that benefits their ambitions. The very same people who feed us the woke narrative.

The Rape gang situation is related to this because politicians put economics, Asian votes and their fear of the so called Right Wing before the welfare of the invisible victims.

It just doesn't fit with the melting pot world fantasy that they want us to buy into.

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Stirlingsays 03 Feb 22 7.08pm
Let's not forget of course that this guy calls anyone whose had vaccines but just not these ones...or is making any criticisms or just isn't up for their booster or are just pro choice an 'anti-vaxxers'. Abuse of language. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 7.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Feb 22 7.08pm

Let's not forget of course that this guy calls anyone whose had vaccines but just not these ones...or is making any criticisms or just isn't up for their booster or are just pro choice an 'anti-vaxxers'.

Abuse of language.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 7.08pm)

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PalazioVecchio south pole 03 Feb 22 7.18pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Nothing to do with the above, that's for sure. I know what this thread is about, but we have drifted off-topic. I am talking about international trade. so you confess to 'trolling the thread' to bore us all off the main topic ? Eze Peasy at Anfield....
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Nothing to do with the above, that's for sure.

I know what this thread is about, but we have drifted off-topic.

I am talking about international trade.

so you confess to 'trolling the thread' to bore us all off the main topic ?

Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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cryrst The garden of England 03 Feb 22 8.11pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I can only speak for myself. I don't see any. Not on those subjects anyway. Whereas I see nothing but bs from the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown advocates. The latter all seem to hold their views solely as a consequence of a political obsession. I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace. We, of course, know the truth. I'm sorry wissie but you've gone overboard here. I have my thoughts on people who don't want the vaccine. I have my thoughts on people who don't agree with the lockdowns but they are nowhere near yours. You seem to want to be the judge,jury and executioner here. Its nothing to do with politics and using that as a bat is wrong!
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The garden of England 03 Feb 22 8.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace.

We, of course, know the truth.

I'm sorry wissie but you've gone overboard here.
I have my thoughts on people who don't want the vaccine. I have my thoughts on people who don't agree with the lockdowns but they are nowhere near yours. You seem to want to be the judge,jury and executioner here. Its nothing to do with politics and using that as a bat is wrong!

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W12 03 Feb 22 9.13pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle I can only speak for myself. I don't see any. Not on those subjects anyway. Whereas I see nothing but bs from the anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown advocates. The latter all seem to hold their views solely as a consequence of a political obsession. I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace. We, of course, know the truth. I don’t really see people objecting to either the vaccine or questioning the pandemic of response needing to label people who don’t with pejoratives rather than engage with the facts of the latter.
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W12 03 Feb 22 9.13pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am sure there are some Brighton supporters among those groups and some of them may try to convince people that Brighton are a bigger club than Palace.

We, of course, know the truth.

I don’t really see people objecting to either the vaccine or questioning the pandemic of response needing to label people who don’t with pejoratives rather than engage with the facts of the latter.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 10.56pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger International trade is about selling, and selling is about influencing minds. In the modern arena, it is about giving the appearance of being green, woke, virtuous or any other quality in order to attract consumers with disposable income. Mostly the young and gullible (and a few old fools). This in itself has become the stuff of dystopian novels, and that is without mentioning the obvious link between business and political ambition. Anyone with enough money and power can influence or even bypass democracy to perpetuate an environment that benefits their ambitions. The very same people who feed us the woke narrative. The Rape gang situation is related to this because politicians put economics, Asian votes and their fear of the so called Right Wing before the welfare of the invisible victims. It just doesn't fit with the melting pot world fantasy that they want us to buy into. You don't succeed in selling simply by influencing minds. That's the common perception of the layman. You succeed by finding out what your customer needs and then providing it to them. People like Del boy are not salesmen. They are con men. Unfortunately there are a lot of them out there, so beware. This is similar to the idea that businesses should sell consumers what they make, when the truth is they should make what the consumers need, and then explain the benefits, so it is also what they want. Most consumers don't give a toss about anything "woke". It's only the right who get so excited about it. Many now care about the environment, and it's far from being just the young. Most though care much more about quality and value. The huge cynicism demonstrated above is only topped by the ability to try to link it to the grooming gang scandal and "Asian" votes, which is as ridiculous as it is creative. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 10.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The Rape gang situation is related to this because politicians put economics, Asian votes and their fear of the so called Right Wing before the welfare of the invisible victims.

It just doesn't fit with the melting pot world fantasy that they want us to buy into.

You don't succeed in selling simply by influencing minds. That's the common perception of the layman. You succeed by finding out what your customer needs and then providing it to them. People like Del boy are not salesmen. They are con men. Unfortunately there are a lot of them out there, so beware.

This is similar to the idea that businesses should sell consumers what they make, when the truth is they should make what the consumers need, and then explain the benefits, so it is also what they want.

Most consumers don't give a toss about anything "woke". It's only the right who get so excited about it. Many now care about the environment, and it's far from being just the young. Most though care much more about quality and value.

The huge cynicism demonstrated above is only topped by the ability to try to link it to the grooming gang scandal and "Asian" votes, which is as ridiculous as it is creative.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.07pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Let's not forget of course that this guy calls anyone whose had vaccines but just not these ones...or is making any criticisms or just isn't up for their booster or are just pro choice an 'anti-vaxxers'. Abuse of language. Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 7.08pm) Whoa! I wasn't aware we had a language policeman here. Language evolves. When circumstances changes, so does the environment that any word has to describe. Those who resist vaccination, for anything other than a medical reason, ought not be allowed to get away with the use of positive terms, like "pro-choice" to justify themselves. Therefore, anyone who refuses to join in the national effort against this, and any future pandemic, by declining the vaccines, is indeed an "anti-vaxxer". That's my opinion. Time alone will tell whether the language evolution I am using gains traction. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.07pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Abuse of language.

Edited by Stirlingsays (03 Feb 2022 7.08pm)

Whoa!

I wasn't aware we had a language policeman here.

Language evolves. When circumstances changes, so does the environment that any word has to describe.

Those who resist vaccination, for anything other than a medical reason, ought not be allowed to get away with the use of positive terms, like "pro-choice" to justify themselves.

Therefore, anyone who refuses to join in the national effort against this, and any future pandemic, by declining the vaccines, is indeed an "anti-vaxxer".

That's my opinion. Time alone will tell whether the language evolution I am using gains traction.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.13pm
Originally posted by cryrst I'm sorry wissie but you've gone overboard here. I have my thoughts on people who don't want the vaccine. I have my thoughts on people who don't agree with the lockdowns but they are nowhere near yours. You seem to want to be the judge,jury and executioner here. Its nothing to do with politics and using that as a bat is wrong! We all have different opinions and approaches. Mine is harsh, I accept that, but there are times when firmness is needed, and times when compromise serves better. Thatcher knew that better than anyone. Just as I want all religion removed from public life, without exception, I want no sympathy extended to anyone deliberately refusing the vaccine. Except those who remain misinformed, and nervous. They need help. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 03 Feb 22 11.13pm

Originally posted by cryrst

We all have different opinions and approaches. Mine is harsh, I accept that, but there are times when firmness is needed, and times when compromise serves better. Thatcher knew that better than anyone.

Just as I want all religion removed from public life, without exception, I want no sympathy extended to anyone deliberately refusing the vaccine. Except those who remain misinformed, and nervous. They need help.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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